3D support of BluRay 3D rips (miniso)

[Tom&Jerry]

Hi,

I have successfully ripped my favourite BluRay 3D movies to HD. But when playing back the rips from HD, movies won't show in 3D.

I am using PowerDVD 9 which (in my BD-drive's OEM version) fully supports BulRay 3D playback. This perfectly works with my hardware setting, as long as I play my original BD directly from my BD drive.

However, if I switch the playback source to my HD rip, the movies will only show in 2D. (Interestingly, my TV set however reports to detect some 3D signal on the HDMI input). I've tried and researched, and my only clue is that the *.miniso / Virtual Drive "emulation" does not support the MVC coding - as oppsed to the AVC coding used for 2D playback.

Could you please tell whether DVDFab (incl. Vitual Drive) supports the ripping/playback of BD 3D movies at all, or what the specific restrictions/prerequisites are?

Thanks a lot. Would be pivotal to have the full 3D rip/playback feature in your fabulous software package.

TJ

[xubin]

If do full disc rip by DVDFab or rip iso by DVDFab Passkey,
after mounting in DVDFab virtual drive, it's native BD 3D movies.

.miniso will add MVC feature.

[Tom&Jerry]

Any experiences from other users?

Thank you Xubin for your reply. I understand that .miniso playback through VirtualDrive enables full 3D features. Anyhow, for me it does not work.

Is there anyone else with (or without) problems playing back movie rips from harddisk in native 3D?

Cheers
TJ

[fengtao]

Please tell us the detail errors.

And please answer:
1. After mount dvdfab.miniso, did you see BDMV\STREAM\SSIF folder, and there is .ssif file(s) inside?
2. What software player do you use?
3. Is there any problem playing original Blu-ray 3D disc?

Thanks.

[glenns]

Hi I ripped a 3d movie using clone then i put the clone back in dvd fab so it can make 3d files everything worked fine but theirs no files in the ssif folder.I have tryed with 3 different movies using the latest fab version.I can use the right and left files in bdmv stream file and watch with steroscopic player and that works.I have power dvd 10 player and it doesn't work with the minstro file mounted, it will play just the opening screen and then just black screen.I cannot play a 3d movie in 3d off a 3d disk but can play the regular bluray file just fine in both above players.My Pioneer bd-rw BDR-205 bluray burner may not be able to play 3d dvds from disk but it works with dvd fab to make 3d dvds just fine so it reads them ok to files but like i said with the files from the stream file you can watch the 3d bluray using steroscopic player.My logs are below shouldn't fab be making the files in the ssif folder even if i can't play a 3d bluray from disk?
Could you explain the way this is suppose to work is this suppose to work with any 3d softwear player?


DVDFab 8.1.7.3 (2012/04/03 02:40:14)

0m 03.09s: GPUAccelerate: 3
0m 03.09s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 03.09s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 03.10s: Graphics info: ATI Radeon HD 4550 : :
0m 03.10s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 03.18s: Load config successful.
0m 03.30s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 07.40s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 07.40s: option dvd2dvd 0 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 0 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 07.41s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 07.78s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 07.78s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 07.91s: dvd2mobile have 29 elements.
0m 09.23s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 09.29s: blu-ray2mobile have 18 elements.
0m 10.11s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 10.38s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 10.43s: file2mobile have 28 elements.
0m 11.72s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 11.75s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 12.33s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 12.66s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 12.75s: StartNotify successful.
0m 05.26s: iso C:/Users/Glenn/Documents/DVDFab/Temp/Clone/PR41NNE2.iso
0m 05.26s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 05.26s: volume label PR41NNE2
0m 05.32s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 05.41s: got discinfo
0m 05.43s: got bdmv
0m 05.90s: got extended bdinfo
0m 05.90s: opened blu-ray
0m 01.13s: Blu-ray Copy: Full Disc
0m 01.13s: Source: [:/BDMV/
0m 01.13s: SourceSize: 47395 MB
0m 01.13s: RemoveHDAudio: 0
0m 01.14s: OutputDisc: BDMV
0m 01.14s: OutputTarget: BD50
0m 01.14s: OutputVideo: 1080p/i
0m 01.14s: 3DMode: Blu-ray 3D


DVDFab 8.1.7.3 (2012/04/03 15:54:54)

0m 04.39s: GPUAccelerate: 3
0m 04.39s: CUDA cap: 0
0m 04.39s: Support coreavc decode: 0
0m 04.40s: Graphics info: ATI Radeon HD 4550 : :
0m 04.47s: Qt Translator file load success
0m 05.06s: Load config successful.
0m 05.33s: Init profile data driver sucessful.
0m 12.95s: Init GPU settings sucessful.
0m 12.95s: option dvd2dvd 0 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2dvd 1 file2bluray 0 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 12.96s: dvd2dvd:dvd2mobile:blu-ray2blu-ray:blu-ray2mobile:blu-ray23d:blu-ray2dvd:file2mobile:file2dvd:file2bluray:
0m 13.53s: Config ExBar successful.
0m 13.53s: dvd2dvd have 8 elements.
0m 13.66s: dvd2mobile have 29 elements.
0m 15.12s: blu-ray2blu-ray have 4 elements.
0m 15.26s: blu-ray2mobile have 18 elements.
0m 16.09s: blu-ray23d have 7 elements.
0m 16.37s: blu-ray2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 16.42s: file2mobile have 28 elements.
0m 17.79s: file2dvd have 1 elements.
0m 17.85s: file2bluray have 1 elements.
0m 19.03s: Config work ui controls successful.
0m 20.68s: Init burn engine successful.
0m 20.83s: StartNotify successful.
0m 48.28s: got media type 16
0m 48.81s: drive F
0m 48.81s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 48.82s: volume label PR41NNE2
0m 48.88s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 50.26s: got discinfo
0m 50.73s: got bdmv
0m 52.74s: got extended bdinfo
0m 52.75s: opened blu-ray

[xubin]

Hi glenns,

The volume label 'PR41NNE2' is which Blu-ray disc?

>> Could you explain the way this is suppose to work is this suppose to work with any 3d softwear player?
1). DVDFab, select "Copy [B]as Blu-ray 3D" when do 3D rip.
2). Mount dvfab.miniso to DVDFab Virtual Drive 1.3.6.0
3). Play the 3D movie in Virtual Drive

[Tom&Jerry]

Please tell us the detail errors.

And please answer:
1. After mount dvdfab.miniso, did you see BDMV\STREAM\SSIF folder, and there is .ssif file(s) inside?
2. What software player do you use?
3. Is there any problem playing original Blu-ray 3D disc?

Thanks.

Thanks Fengtao for adding MVC support and for your input.

ad 1: I have ripped the disk ca. 9 month ago to my hard drive. There is a SSIF folder - yet it is empty. Also after recreating the .miniso with VirtualDrive 1.3.6.0 as shown , and after mounting it: there is a SSIF folder, yet it is empty.

ad 2/3: I am using Cyberlink PowerDVD, and it works fine playing back 3D from BD directly.


Is it mandatory to have a .ssif file for 3D playback to work? Which is the first DVDFab version to support 3 ripping?

...seems I will need to re-rip the disc.
Best
TJ

[xubin]

@Tom&Jerry

Plz use the latest version of DVDFab to re-rip.

.ssif files are mandatory.

[glenns]

Xubin: The title prninne2 is from Pirates of the caribbeann stranger tides 3-d.
I can't seem to rip a 3d dvd and get any files in the Issf folder I tryed 4-5 different movies all ripped with the latest fab version to clone then put back in fab to make full disk 3d files with miniso.All seems to go ok but in the stream file their's just a empty SSIF file.

I can use the 2 largest files in the stream file and play with stereoscopic player but i can't play the 3d files with power dvd 10 using the minsio file only the regular non 3d movie will play.

Just so you know i can't play a 3d bluray from disk only the regular bluray will play not the 3d unless i look at the files on the disk and use the 2 largest files with stereoscopic player then it will play in 3d on my Samsung 3d plasma from disk but only if i use passkey with a encrypted disk.My log files for the pirates of the caribbean 3d is a few posts above i was on vacation so i couldn't get back to you sooner.

Am i doing something wrong or am I miss understanding that the new minsio can be used once loaded into Virtual drive 1.3.6.0. or later and can be used to play full 3d movies in power dvd 10 3d?

[xubin]

@glenns

Please download 1.3.7.0 prerelease at:

After install it, use DVDFab Virtual Drive to create 3D .miniso as describe in:

[glenns]

You posted a bad link my friend.

[xubin]

wow, sorry,

[glenns]

Even with the new 1.3.7.0. I still can't get Issf files in the folder it comes up empty before or after i mount the miniso when looking at the stream file.The log Files look good like the one in my first post no errors and i tryed 2 different 3d disks.
DVDFabPasskey 8.0.6.1 (2012/04/26 00:05:21)

0m 43.22s: got media type 16
0m 43.45s: drive N
0m 43.45s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 43.46s: volume label MM41NNE2
0m 44.88s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 45.10s: got discinfo
0m 45.16s: got bdmv
0m 45.19s: opened blu-ray
0m 55.90s: got media type 16
0m 55.92s: drive N
0m 55.92s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 55.92s: volume label MM41NNE2
0m 55.97s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 56.02s: got discinfo
0m 56.06s: got bdmv
0m 56.06s: opened blu-ray
0m 30.82s: got media type 16
0m 30.85s: drive N
0m 30.85s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 30.85s: volume label MM41NNE2
0m 30.89s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 30.95s: got discinfo
0m 30.98s: got bdmv
0m 30.98s: opened blu-ray
0m 47.10s: got media type 16
0m 47.12s: drive N
0m 47.12s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 47.12s: volume label MM41NNE2
0m 47.16s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 47.21s: got discinfo
0m 47.24s: got bdmv
0m 47.25s: opened blu-ray
0m 21.29s: got media type 15
0m 25.01s: drive E
0m 25.02s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 25.02s: volume label CORALINE_3D_BUNDLE
0m 35.00s: aacs 1 bd+ 0
0m 36.23s: got discinfo
0m 36.33s: got bdmv
0m 36.36s: Vendor: PIONEER
0m 36.36s: Product: BD-RW BDR-205
0m 36.37s: Revision: 1.12
0m 36.37s: Vendor specific: 11/06/16 PIONEER
0m 36.37s: AACS version: 1
0m 36.38s: Number of concurrent AGIDs: 1
0m 36.39s: Supports bus encryption: NO
0m 36.39s: Supports binding nonce generation: YES
0m 36.39s: Supports Hybrid discs: NO
0m 36.60s: got agid 0
0m 36.68s: sent host cert chal
0m 36.69s: got drive cert chal
0m 36.69s: BEC 0
0m 36.69s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0067
0m 36.75s: got drive key
0m 37.80s: got host key signature
0m 37.80s: verified drive signature
0m 37.81s: verified host signature
0m 37.91s: failed to send host signature and key point: sensekey 05 asc 2C acsq 00
0m 38.00s: got agid 0
0m 38.08s: sent host cert chal
0m 38.10s: got drive cert chal
0m 38.10s: BEC 0
0m 38.11s: DRIVE_VENDOR 0x0067
0m 38.68s: got drive key
0m 38.68s: got host key signature
0m 38.68s: verified drive signature
0m 38.69s: verified host signature
0m 38.75s: sent host signature and key point
0m 38.75s: got bus key
0m 39.86s: got volume id
0m 39.87s: got volume id mac
0m 39.87s: volume id is correct
0m 39.95s: got vid
0m 40.26s: blu-ray 0D5411D69BB2463CA14736D9E80E2216CAF118F7
0m 54.01s: cert BEE=0x00 same
0m 55.01s: D 87BA909F
0m 55.05s: got vuk
0m 55.38s: got unit key 1
0m 55.39s: opened blu-ray
0m 59.92s: got media type 16
0m 00.16s: drive N
0m 00.16s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 00.17s: volume label CORALINE_3D_BUNDLE
0m 00.45s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 00.59s: got discinfo
0m 00.67s: got bdmv
0m 00.69s: opened blu-ray
0m 36.09s: got media type 16
0m 36.20s: drive N
0m 36.20s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 36.21s: volume label CORALINE_3D_BUNDLE
0m 36.37s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 36.45s: got discinfo
0m 36.49s: got bdmv
0m 36.50s: opened blu-ray
0m 19.73s: got media type 16
0m 20.09s: drive N
0m 20.09s: type Blu-ray BDMV
0m 20.09s: volume label CORALINE_3D_BUNDLE
0m 20.25s: aacs 0 bd+ 0
0m 20.36s: got discinfo
0m 20.41s: got bdmv
0m 20.44s: opened blu-ray

[xubin]

Can you send the dvdfab.miniso file to xubin@dvdfab.com?

[xubin]

1) If use DVDFab to create 3D miniso
Select Bluray Copy -> Full Disc, and checked create miniso file option

2) If use Passkey
After decrypted by Passkey, copy all files except BDMV\STREAM\SSIF folder to harddisk, then use DVDFab Virtual Drive "Create miniso file".

After create the miniso file, mount it by DVDFab Virtual Drive, then use the Virtual 3D drive as normal.