Warning email from Amazon

[gokuairo2025]

I had already used two PV accounts outside Europe before this topic
was created, and I constantly switch between different countries
(sometimes 4 countries within an hour - of course not same ip/provider),
but I did not receive an email for either of the two accounts.

However, my main account in Germany has never been used outside Germany
and never changed the payment method and I received the warning.

As just mentioned, any suspicious browsing data may be recorded for investigation at a later date. Not having it now doesn't mean not having it later.
What we need to pay attention to now is to try to avoid and stop this kind of action. It will not only bring no benefit to the account, but also bring more trouble to personal use.

[gokuairo2025]

This is nonsense- most ISPs only offer static IP address as a premium option (yes, even for what are considered more-or-less "nailed down" connections such as cable or fibre) as those IP addresses are literally... a premium nowadays

IP monitoring is actually happening now. Netflix is blocking it on the account login interface. When you use a suspicious or blacklisted proxy, you will not be able to log in, especially those shared accounts on the market, which will only pollute the IP used.
Amazon, on the other hand, systematically investigates account logins and their owners after login, including collecting evidence of suspicious activity. Even if you file a complaint, they'll know your past actions, making their approach more effective and thorough.
We have no idea how they do this, nor how we can completely avoid being blocked.

However, at present, the browser support in streamfab is still relatively safe.

BTW, just kidding: Amazon finally figured out how to deal with DRM cracking. XD....

[0xFeedBeef]

IP monitoring is actually happening now. Netflix is blocking it on the account login interface. When you use a suspicious or blacklisted proxy, you will not be able to log in, especially those shared accounts on the market, which will only pollute the IP used.
Amazon, on the other hand, systematically investigates account logins and their owners after login, including collecting evidence of suspicious activity. Even if you file a complaint, they'll know your past actions, making their approach more effective and thorough.
We have no idea how they do this, nor how we can completely avoid being blocked.

However, at present, the browser support in streamfab is still relatively safe.

BTW, just kidding: Amazon finally figured out how to deal with DRM cracking. XD....

these are just your wet fantasies, amazon doesn't have resources to parse, let alone monitor TENs, if not hundreds, of MILLIONS of daily logins; while healthy paranoia is good, delusional conspiracy theories don't help anyone.

[MrGrackle]

IP monitoring is actually happening now. Netflix is blocking it on the account login interface. When you use a suspicious or blacklisted proxy, you will not be able to log in, especially those shared accounts on the market, which will only pollute the IP used.
BTW, just kidding: Amazon finally figured out how to deal with DRM cracking. XD....

People that try to rename their cache folder and login to NF, only to be met with an invalid login, that is due to SF not handling the cookies or active controls in the page correctly. One could go to a regular browser and the login works fine. So the issue is still definitely SF and not the IP.

Bypassing the DRM is done on the user side and is a passive function, they have no idea what you did with the stream once you downloaded it.

The best way to download anything from anywhere is to emulate a set top box. I would not doubt if some fine people in the scene do just that to some extent. A set top box emulator opens up just about everything. One of my generic android boxes I have has a buffering option that I can crank way up and it literally caches the entire 45 minute show I want to watch.

Option 2 still is not a reality either as far as I know. AMZ has an option to download content to be viewed later with their own player. Assuming it is almost the same file (quality and such), could not someone figure out a way to decrypt that and save it elsewhere? Having never done that, I don't know what to expect. Maybe it is a gimped copy meant to be watched on a tablet or something.

[0xFeedBeef]

People that try to rename their cache folder and login to NF, only to be met with an invalid login, that is due to SF not handling the cookies or active controls in the page correctly. One could go to a regular browser and the login works fine. So the issue is still definitely SF and not the IP.

Bypassing the DRM is done on the user side and is a passive function, they have no idea what you did with the stream once you downloaded it.

The best way to download anything from anywhere is to emulate a set top box. I would not doubt if some fine people in the scene do just that to some extent

most scene stuff is actually direct vendor leaks (don't ask me how I know, I just do, and if you know what to watch for and what to correlate, you'll see it for yourself)

Option 2 still is not a reality either as far as I know. AMZ has an option to download content to be viewed later with their own player. Assuming it is almost the same file (quality and such), could not someone figure out a way to decrypt that and save it elsewhere? Having never done that, I don't know what to expect. Maybe it is a gimped copy meant to be watched on a tablet or something.

not the same (at least on iOS), amazon dl quality is neutered when you're downloading in the prime app

[gokuairo2025]

these are just your wet fantasies, amazon doesn't have resources to parse, let alone monitor TENs, if not hundreds, of MILLIONS of daily logins; while healthy paranoia is good, delusional conspiracy theories don't help anyone.

It does not require so many resources and manpower to monitor, just write a trigger mechanism. Website security and protection are extremely important for any commercial website, not to mention the world's largest e-commerce website.
As for the conspiracy theory, well, if it's just a fantasy, then why did the emails received by users detail the terms such as the digital copyrights you have violated, and why did Amazon still reply after filing a complaint, claiming that it had solid evidence of your suspicious behavior? How did they know? It certainly wasn't through thoughts or super powers (Sorry, this is unrealistic...).

In short, my suggestion is to avoid the frequent IP switching mentioned in the previous replies, so that your account can survive for a long time.

[gokuairo2025]

People that try to rename their cache folder and login to NF, only to be met with an invalid login, that is due to SF not handling the cookies or active controls in the page correctly. One could go to a regular browser and the login works fine. So the issue is still definitely SF and not the IP.

Bypassing the DRM is done on the user side and is a passive function, they have no idea what you did with the stream once you downloaded it.

The best way to download anything from anywhere is to emulate a set top box. I would not doubt if some fine people in the scene do just that to some extent. A set top box emulator opens up just about everything. One of my generic android boxes I have has a buffering option that I can crank way up and it literally caches the entire 45 minute show I want to watch.

Option 2 still is not a reality either as far as I know. AMZ has an option to download content to be viewed later with their own player. Assuming it is almost the same file (quality and such), could not someone figure out a way to decrypt that and save it elsewhere? Having never done that, I don't know what to expect. Maybe it is a gimped copy meant to be watched on a tablet or something.

This isn't a DRM issue, but rather an account login issue. As mentioned above, Netflix blocks suspicious IP addresses or blacklisted proxies from the login screen. Frequently changing IP addresses to other regions can also trigger this issue, especially on a shared account used by multiple people (Account will be forced to log out). This doesn't matter whether you're using Streamfab or another browser. Sometimes, this can be due to an issue with the proxy itself or a blacklisting by the server. This is quite common.

[jpp72]

gokuairo2025

Can you tone it down? You are pulling stuff right out of your ass. Changing your IP address and subscribing to lots of channels happen ALL the time with people who have never even heard of DRM and how to bypass it.

You come here with a fresh account and post things as if you have inside knowledge. You don't.

Give your opinion but don't state it as fact.

[gokuairo2025]

gokuairo2025

Can you tone it down? You are pulling stuff right out of your ass. Changing your IP address and subscribing to lots of channels happen ALL the time with people who have never even heard of DRM and how to bypass it.

You come here with a fresh account and post things as if you have inside knowledge. You don't.

Give your opinion but don't state it as fact.

Okay. My point throughout was focused on the account access and locked issue, and I never mentioned DRM downloads as a cause. What I described is also the result of practice. If you misunderstood, it might be because I didn't express myself clearly. I apologize for that.
And yeah, I don't know anything. I don't pretend to know anything, I'm just sharing my personal opinions and experiences.
Be cool.

The following are the warning emails I received and the result emails I received after the appeal.
The email was also received after switching to a different IP address while browsing the homepage using Chrome. After registering a new account, switching IP addresses, and directly subscribing to a channel, the page was quickly locked again. This situation has only occurred recently.
After that, as I said, I used another account and stopped frequently switching IP addresses to purchase digital products such as subscription channels in a short period of time. So far, I have not received any warning emails or been locked out.

[slottedpig]

So the question still remains, on a clean account only using 6247 or higher has anyone received an email? I haven’t and have paid for 4 rentals and downloaded a few movies that are included with prime

[Sebastian001]

So the question still remains, on a clean account only using 6247 or higher has anyone received an email? I haven’t and have paid for 4 rentals and downloaded a few movies that are included with prime

That's why Jack is our chosen one, who's now downloading his stuff with a new account. If he's successful, he'll receive a trophy from the Amazon government :-)

[jpp72]

Okay. My point throughout was focused on the account access and locked issue, and I never mentioned DRM downloads as a cause. What I described is also the result of practice. If you misunderstood, it might be because I didn't express myself clearly. I apologize for that.
And yeah, I don't know anything. I don't pretend to know anything, I'm just sharing my personal opinions and experiences.
Be cool.

The following are the warning emails I received and the result emails I received after the appeal.
The email was also received after switching to a different IP address while browsing the homepage using Chrome. After registering a new account, switching IP addresses, and directly subscribing to a channel, the page was quickly locked again. This situation has only occurred recently.
After that, as I said, I used another account and stopped frequently switching IP addresses to purchase digital products such as subscription channels in a short period of time. So far, I have not received any warning emails or been locked out.

Why are you telling me to be cool? What did i say to not be cool? smfh...

As for my mention of DRM, i mean that people who are NOT trying to download anything do all the stuff you claim Amazon looks at to determine if they will ban you.

When you say you didn't express yourself clearly, you weren't lying.

We now find out that your account was suspended. You then proceeded to create a new account, using the same IP address and only changing it after creating the account. Everyone knows if you are banned from somewhere and you want to create a new account, you change your IP FIRST. You shouldn't even use the same computer actually. You also contested the suspension. Obviously they'll be on the lookout.

The majority of us stopped downloading when we got the warning. On my Canadian account, i order something from Amazon pretty much every other day. My mom watches stuff in the Prime app on her TV. I never change my IP unless my ISP does when my lease is over or there is an issue with the connection. Amazon can clearly see the IP pool still belongs to the same ISP. I still got the warning. So, like i said, you are wildly speculating but framing it like it's fact.

Thank you for letting people know it's not factual and just speculation. That's all i wanted.

[gokuairo2025]

Everyone knows if you are banned from somewhere and you want to create a new account, you change your IP FIRST. You shouldn't even use the same computer actually.

That's exactly what I did first. The only relevant thing was that I had linked it to the credit card used on the locked account. It is possible that I later used the same IP address that I used to access the locked account. So after confirming that the IP and host used were completely different from before, I logged into another backup account and linked a new credit card. After that, I never received any warning emails again. But some accounts were sacrificed for this (because of my mistake) ...
As you said, these are just speculations. But I understand that I have to use my account carefully from now on.

[simchris]

I have clean legal account and still have zero issues downloading movies or subscription service content via Amazon in USA and no warnings since this issue started.

[Nexus-3]

I've been reading through all this trying to figure out how to setup a secondary account. There is some discussion about prepaid gift cc's, but can you setup another account with these?? I thought I read somewhere you had to already have a active account to use a prepaid gift card. So how is this done. Accounts always appear to want every frakkin detail they can get. So...you guys that setup another account, where does one start? Using the same details (cc) of an account that has been banned doesn't seem like they way to go about it. Somewhat confused about all this.