BD Ripper (3D Plus) Extract regular and forced subtitles

[ptr727]

As of today, one can either extract the subtitles as is, or only the forced subs.
I would like to have both.

I.e. select any full sub stream, and for each sub stream, select if a forced only sub should be created.

E.g. English [yes/no]
English (forced only) [yes/no]


(And the ability to embed the subs in the MKV and not external files)

Thank you

P.

[signals]

I think this would be difficult to do automatically, since on some discs the forced subs are in a different stream than the normal ones.

[ptr727]

Are you sure?

My understanding is that "forced" is an attribute of a subtitle.
As such, logic would be extract entire stream, and / or extract stream and only include subtitles with the forced flag set.

Other tools such as MakeMKV already support this, and creates two separate streams in the MKV.

P.

[signals]

For DVDs at least I am quite sure that forced subs can be either in the stream with the main subs or in a stream of their own (more common with older titles). The streams are seldom tagged as "forced subs" on modern DVDs and in any event the actual forcing is controlled by a forced start command in the DCSQT, which any software would have to scan to identify. So on a DVD where the forced subs are in the same stream as the main subs, it would require creating a new stream, muxing it and updating the IFO files, adding greatly to the processing times (but I guess it could be done). The differences in the way sub streams are handled on different titles is the element that would make automation difficult. I have never seen a Blu-ray with "standalone" forced subs but I would guess it is possible. I am not familiar with the software you mentioned.

[fengtao]

Hi ptr727,

It's possbile, but we need work on new UI to support it, maybe next big update will have it.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

[ptr727]

Thank you, that would be great.

The one area where I think DVDFab is lacking is subtitles, and is the only reason I sometimes use other tools, like MakeMKV that has much fewer features compared to DVDFab, but has great subtitle support.

P.

[Chetwood]

My understanding is that "forced" is an attribute of a subtitle.

In all my years of ripping DVDs I've only recently come across a DVD that has one subtitle stream of which a few items are flagged as forced (Bram Stoker's Dracula RC1). All other DVDs had a seperate "regular" stream containing only the forced items.

[ptr727]

It applies to BD.

E.g. See here for a list of BD titles with forced subs:

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1006&p=8365

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=t8Xb85eyNFtZ3vaNK8gqkbQ&single=true&gid=0&output=html