Forced Subtitles

[kevinw]

Is there any way I can differentiate forced subtitles from the rest?

I rip a film in which there is 'foreign' dialogue and need to select the forced subtitles but they all seem to be named the same thing. In VLC they are track x-y, in emby English (PGSSUB). The only way I can find the forced subtitles is to select each subtitle in turn until I find the one I want.

Is there a better way?

Thanks.

Kevin

[signals]

Using the Ripper module, DVDFab can find and filter out the forced translation subs in a stream from the standard dialogue by using the Display only Forced switch. It is located in the subtitle selector dropdown.

Note that translations are sometimes located in streams by themselves (not truly forced) in which case the Forced Only switch will only produce empty results (no subs). In this case you must first use the Preview function to audition each stream to find the one that contains only the translations and then select only this one to be included in your output.

[kevinw]

Thanks. I get that bit but I ask the module to add both forced and normal subtitles. The former so we can understand the dialogue when it's not in English and the latter so I don't have to re-rip the film when we get even older and more decrepit than we already are!

It's the mix of subtitles I'm struggling with as there seems to be no way to differentiate between the forced and normal without trying each in turn.

[LaciBacsi]

kevinw another way to determine is to watch the original disc either on software player (I use PowerDVD) or standalone player and see which subtitle track is automatically turned on (i.e. "Forced") by the player. This is 99% full proof. I say 99% because in a few titles I have backed up in the past, there is some kind of coding (Java?) that dynamically turns the main English subtitle on and off to display translations where appropriate. If making Movie Only backup, this coding is not included in the copy and the only way to ensure it works right is to make Full Disc Copy. One recent title that comes to mind that does this is 'Bad Boys for Life" (US RA). In the Movie Only Copy you can either have main English subtitle always on or off. If off, the translations will NOT show up. If on, you will see ALL subtitles, not just the translations. Full DIsc Copy works properly. I dont recall the other titles, but do remember there were a few others that worked this way. Even using my 99% full-proof method, none of the subtitle tracks showed up as being on, or "Forced on" for this title, yet translation appeared where appropriate, in both original disc and Full Disc Copy only.