Hunger Games Compression Problems

[berdman]

OK...but try to compress to a 25 GB

[QUOTE=maineman;121163]I compressed T17 from a main movie, non-compressed rip as source to a BD9 with v.8085,
just to see.
No problems at all.

I'll try later tonight with 8206...when I get a chance.

HTH

[maineman]

v.8206 compressed Hunger Games to a BD25 without playback issues...at least for my media players.

The point I was trying to make in my previous post was that v.8085 will often prevail where the recent versions (Qt) will not,
particularly with problematic discs such as this one.
Since v.8085 successfully compressed to a BD9, a BD25 certainly "should not" present a problem.
Sorry if my post was a bit obtuse.

Interestingly, every rip I've done with this flick has failed to playback the chapters in the proper sequence
when viewed on my pc with both MPC and VLC.
This includes both Fab titles #1 and # 17 as well as title #565 ripped with another decrypting program
(#565 is the correct title for this software and a big hint would be Fab's primary competitor).

Additionally, all these rips, both uncompressed and compressed,
playback perfectly, ie., correct chapter sequence...
when played via my media players, an AIOS (primary) and an Argosy (an older backup).

Curiouser and curiouser

Thankfully, I watch virtually all my video content via my MP's and have rarely burned a disc in over 2 years.

[BeemerBiker]

v.8206 compressed Hunger Games to a BD25 without playback issues...at least for my media players.

The point I was trying to make in my previous post was that v.8085 will often prevail where the recent versions (Qt) will not,
particularly with problematic discs such as this one.
Since v.8085 successfully compressed to a BD9, a BD25 certainly "should not" present a problem.
Sorry if my post was a bit obtuse.

Interestingly, every rip I've done with this flick has failed to playback the chapters in the proper sequence
when viewed on my pc with both MPC and VLC.
This includes both Fab titles #1 and # 17 as well as title #565 ripped with another decrypting program
(#565 is the correct title for this software and a big hint would be Fab's primary competitor).

Additionally, all these rips, both uncompressed and compressed,
playback perfectly, ie., correct chapter sequence...
when played via my media players, an AIOS (primary) and an Argosy (an older backup).

Curiouser and curiouser

Thankfully, I watch virtually all my video content via my MP's and have rarely burned a disc in over 2 years.

I have been burning disk for all my movies & TV series (star trek, stargate, etc). I put the originals in a spindle and the copies (mostly main movie) into the original steelbook or a "white" album for some of my kids or the whole family to watch. I use Nero's KWIK to watch while on-line. I recently got a PIVOS AIOS but have not set up a good audio system for it so I am not using it much yet.

8.198 did not properly extract the main movie from The Hunger Games. I then tried 8.202. The cloned image has the 1 minute copyright warning that spoils part of that chapter. This showed up when I mounted the 41gb ISO using DVDFab virtual drive and played with KWIK. However, the main movie was extracted just fine from the 41gb ISO. It did not have that copyright warning. I extracted it as an ISO and then burned the movie using Nero 11. This was NOT the 2 disk retail that othes have problems with. The playlist was "1' and the chapters were 1->17. Both the nero copy and the iso played just fine.

Your time to compress "THG" BD50 to DVD-9 (78 minutes?) is extremely fast compared to my 50->25 of 171 minutes. My 171 does include a few minutes to make the iso. I assume the algorithm to get to 8.5gb does extensive decimation.

I did not pay for the BD to DVD option. What is the codex used in the DVD after the conversion? Is it also mpeg4? How does the bit rates compare to the following?

For example, THG's 502 section uncompressed (41gb MPEG4) is


and after compression it is reduced (using GTX570) to


[EDIT] I just realized that your last line in that log shows 6771 kbps. I assume that is the bit rate the video was decimated to.

[Potti]

Hi all:
8207 is out, please try it:

[maineman]

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Your time to compress "THG" BD50 to DVD-9 (78 minutes?) is extremely fast compared to my 50->25 of 171 minutes. My 171 does include a few minutes to make the iso. I assume the algorithm to get to 8.5gb does extensive decimation.

I did not pay for the BD to DVD option. What is the codex used in the DVD after the conversion? Is it also mpeg4? How does the bit rates compare to the following?

For example, THG's 502 section uncompressed (41gb MPEG4) is


and after compression it is reduced (using GTX570) to


[EDIT] I just realized that your last line in that log shows 6771 kbps. I assume that is the bit rate the video was decimated to.

As I said, I rarely burn.
I have all my DVD and BD content ripped, uncompressed, to hdds.

I am in the process of converting virtually all BD content utilizing an .mkv.h264 audiocopy profile.
I keep the kbps at ~ 15,000.
The resultant files are nothing short of outstanding.
Honestly, I see no discernible difference when viewing the mkv vs. original BD on a 42" HDTV

On the plus side, the file size is substantially reduced to ~ 50% (+/-) of the original file size.
I really only do main movie.

Here are a few screenshots via mediainfo:

BD9

DVD9

.MKV


Re: times, mine are on par with yours, ie., my 77 minute was accomplished with v.8085
My times just about double with the more recent Qt versions.
I'm not sure when I first noticed this, but I just tried the same DVD9 and BD9and was looking at about 2 hours each using v.8207

My rig is a home build core i7, just coming up on its 3rd year anniversary.
Very much a middle-of-the-road build for 2009.

The guts:
Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor

EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready

6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800).

Fab A/V codecs:

Video Decoder all Software only
Video Encoder Software and CUDA

I usually see ~ 20-25% increase in speed without issues
with GPU acceleleration.

//Edit
I should have mentioned, my decrypting times with the newer Qt versions are normal.
Generally a BD main movie decrypts in ~ 35 minutes, give or take.

[signals]

BD-9 and BD-5 are AVCHD, h264. Using these techniques it is best to avoid audiocopy and downmix to stereo, leaves more bits for the video. The BD to DVD option decodes the BD and re-encodes as MPEG-2.

[maineman]

BD-9 and BD-5 are AVCHD, h264. Using these techniques it is best to avoid audiocopy and downmix to stereo, leaves more bits for the video. The BD to DVD option decodes the BD and re-encodes as MPEG-2.

Maybe my post was confusing, but now I'm confused...

[signals]

Yah, me too .

I was trying to answer some of Beemer's leftover questions, which I am not entirely sure I understood.