Error Reading Discs?

[90312]

Transcoders like DVDFab are not as forgiving as a player. Just because a DVD will play doesn't mean it will copy, apples and oranges, two completely different processes.

[max.db]

Are you using the latest version of Fab version 9.0.9.5 if not please download it and try again.Read errors are caused by dirty or scratched disks most of the time so if their are deep scratches you won't be able to copy them even if they play well.

Can anybody explain why this is? I wasn't able to copy a heavily scratched DVD that played in my home player with just an occasional glitch.

Why is it that players can play through scratches most of the time but the copy process cannot? It's like it's too finicky and won't simply chill out and do the best it can. I don't need a bit-for-bit flawless copy, I just need to be able to watch the movie.

[CBR929]

Same here, glad your burning again.
CBR929

[90312]

It does happen occasionally, glad you got it sorted.

[Norm@Home]

DVDFab v9.0.5.5 Error Reading Discs?

I just got a new copy of The Incredibes and I'm happy to report that it copied and ripped without any problem. So I guess I can close this out, there must have just been a bad batch of Scent Of A Woman and Incredibles discs.

[90312]

The defect I was speaking of will not prevent playing on a set top player with it's oversampling forgiveness, they just prevent backup of 1:1 data. Playing and backing up are apples and oranges, the fact it plays is meaningless when it comes to backing up.

[GregiBoy]

Admittedly, it was in the PRON industry and they seem to be able to get away with anything!

[Norm@Home]

DVDFab v9.0.5.5 Error Reading Discs?

And the number of titles that are produced with manufacturing defects is quite amazing. From last figures that I saw, it was running around the 20% mark. A friend of mine in the industry has had one batch with around an 80% return rate.

Wow, I would have never have believed that any manufacturer could get away with selling something with that high a defect rate or that quality assurance is so nonexistent that is wasn't detected and corrected.

Thanks,

- Norm

[GregiBoy]

And the number of titles that are produced with manufacturing defects is quite amazing. From last figures that I saw, it was running around the 20% mark. A friend of mine in the industry has had one batch with around an 80% return rate.

The mind boggles.

The impression that I get, it is cheaper for the studios to deal with replacements up to the 30% level instead of enforcing better QA.

[90312]

It's not unheard of that manufacturing defects in discs are run in batches Norm. This might occur if getting the disc in the same store where they receive them in consecutively manufactured batches.

[Norm@Home]

DVDFab v9.0.5.5 Error Reading Discs?

I received today a fifth copy of "Scent Of A Woman" which I bought online, this disc copied perfectly and unlike the fourth disc I had a few days ago the copy not only plays perfectly but you can see here in the stream folder:

 Directory of I:\Temp\Scent Of A Woman\BDMV\STREAM

08/03/2013  12:32 PM    <DIR>          .
08/03/2013  12:32 PM    <DIR>          ..
08/03/2013  11:37 AM            55,296 00002.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM         1,345,536 00003.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM         1,345,536 00004.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           829,440 00005.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           811,008 00006.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           669,696 00007.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           430,080 00008.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           669,696 00009.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           565,248 00010.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           221,184 00011.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           221,184 00012.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM            92,160 00013.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        64,106,496 00014.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        64,106,496 00015.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:08 AM       136,617,984 00016.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:08 AM       136,617,984 00017.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        64,106,496 00018.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        31,291,392 00019.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM       136,617,984 00020.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM    44,217,354,240 00023.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,351,680 00026.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,517,568 00027.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,499,136 00028.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           473,088 00029.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,093,632 00031.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,093,632 00032.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,093,632 00033.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           737,280 00084.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM         2,297,856 00088.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        80,510,976 00105.m2ts

That the 00023.m2ts file is over 44GB in size while the same file on the fourth disc was only about 4.7GB. I still don't understand how it's possible to get four bad discs in a row where three of them had read errors and there was something wrong with the fourth where copy said successful but didn't get the entire contents of the disc, truth be told I probably spent enough money on gas and postage to buy three copies of this disc and that's a little frustrating.

I also ordered another copy online of "The Incredibles" since it's been a year since I went through four discs without being able to play or copy / ripp them but I haven't received it yet. When I get it I hope that I have some sucess with it and I'll post back with the outcome.

Thanks,

- Norm

[glenns]

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=33628

Here's the full review for the drive.

BDR-207J - with XL and DVD-RAM for the japanese market and of course MIJ!
BDR-207M - with XL and DVD-RAM (probably MIC) follow up for the 206M, so probably for all markets
BDR-207D(BK) or (SV) - no XL and no DVD-RAM capabilities, worldwide, BK == black bezel, SV == silver bezel, there is even a white/grey version (should be MIC drives)
BDR-207 - same as 207D but with DVD-RAM capabilities
BDR-2207 - RETAIL version with XL and DVD-RAM for the NA market (should be MIC drives)

[glenns]

The Pioneer BDR-2207 BDXL burner is the company's most powerful and full-featured drive released so far. (The drive, also available outside the U.S.) as BDR-207M (generic model), BDR-207MBK, BDR-207JBK and BDR-207UBK, is the successor of the BDR-206M(BK), which we have already tested here at CDRInfo.com. Compared to the to BDR-206M, the new new drive offers faster burning and reading speeds with CD, DVD and BD and BDXL media.

Infomation from CDRinfo.com check it out other sights call it a overseas model
because it's brought their as BDR207M a Generic model of the US models with different model numbers.Amazon sells outside of the US also and may have brought this model to serve both markets with the same drive.

Fire off a email to Pioneer and ask if theirs newer firmware for your overseas Generic model.It's possible you may use the BDR-2207 firmware but I wouldn't do it unless Pioneer tells you it's ok.

[Norm@Home]

Bdr-207m

The M version simply means it will read and write to M discs. The layer written to is rather more like stone that aluminum foil and supposed to last 1000 years. I smoked for years and drank beer so I probably won't live to find out.

Thanks for clearing that up, When GlenS said that was an overseas model I was wondering how I managed to get one from Amazon here in the USA. I'm still trying to locate a firmware update for this drive. The Pioneer website lists a version 1.30 for these drives BDR-207UBK, BDR-207EBK and BDR-207DBK and I don't think any of these will work for the 207M model.

[90312]

The M version simply means it will read and write to M discs. The layer written to is rather more like stone than aluminum foil and supposed to last 1000 years. I smoked for years and drank beer so I probably won't live to find out.