No files created when source video_ts is on HDD

[noki]

Hi,

I have ripped some DVDs to HDD, but on some of them I forgot to mark "directly jump to main menu" (or similar). So I wanted to do this afterwards processing the video_ts folder that is already on my HDD, but it does not work! DVDfab 8.0.4.0 just asks me if I really want to copy files without compression and then creates an empty folder. Why is that? It works great from DVD.
In an older version 6 I could not even press Start.

Does anybody have an idea? Is it a bug or by intention?

Thanks,
noki

[DarthCopier]

Hi,

I have ripped some DVDs to HDD, but on some of them I forgot to mark "directly jump to main menu" (or similar). So I wanted to do this afterwards processing the video_ts folder that is already on my HDD, but it does not work! DVDfab 8.0.4.0 just asks me if I really want to copy files without compression and then creates an empty folder. Why is that? It works great from DVD.
In an older version 6 I could not even press Start.

Does anybody have an idea? Is it a bug or by intention?

Thanks,
noki

This is intentional... DVDFab simply cannot do what you want to do with the already-ripped files that you forgot to flag as 'jump to main menu'...

Because of this, you have two options:

1.) Delete the already ripped files and re-rip the disks involved (making sure Fab is set to 'jump to main menu')...

2.) Spend a lot of quality time with Google learning all about DVD structure (paying close attention to the VIDEO_TS.IFO file), and using a utility like IFOEdit, you can go in and manually change the IFO file to do what you want.

Either way, time consuming, and probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but it's the only way I can think of handling this.

DC

[noki]

Either way, time consuming, and probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but it's the only way I can think of handling this.

Right, that's the problem and I do not see a reason (at least no technical) why DVDfab should handle DVD-structures differently on HDD or DVD (especially if this is intentionally). Maybe this could be added in the future..

I know it can be done with PGCedit and it works, but even reripping takes less time...

Nils

[maineman]

Still not the answer you want, but DC is exactly right.
Fab handles the original, dvd files and the hdd files the same way.
In order to utilize the advanced navigation features of PathPlayer, eg., jump to main menu, you have to process (rip or rerip)
the files whether the source content is on dvd or hdd

[noki]

Maybe there is a misunderstanding: I don't want to modify the files "in place", so without copying/ripping. I want to copy the DVD structure from folder A (original) to folder B (modified navigation). This is still much faster than re-ripping from DVD, but it does not work.

Fab handles the original, dvd files and the hdd files the same way.

Mmh, but in that case ist should work. I do not see a difference in copying/ripping DVD structure files from a DVD (assuming no CSS) to a HDD folder or from a HDD folder to another HDD folder and thereby modifying the navigation.

Unfortunately, when the source is a video_ts folder on a HDD, DVDfab only creates an empty video_ts folder in the target folder. If I select a DVD, the target folder is filled correctly.

Nils

[Mona]

“when the source is a video_ts folder on a HDD, DVDfab only creates an empty video_ts folder in the target folder. If I select a DVD, the target folder is filled correctly.”

Hi noki,

Please ungrade to the latest version 8.0.5.0 of DVDFab at

When you chose the video_ts folder on a HDD as source, please choose another hard drive as target (not the same hard drive where the source video_ts folder saved), then copy again to see if you can get correct folder in your target location or not.

Regards,

mona

[GregiBoy]

You do not process the VIDEO_TS directory, you process the directory above it.

[DarthCopier]

Right, that's the problem and I do not see a reason (at least no technical) why DVDfab should handle DVD-structures differently on HDD or DVD (especially if this is intentionally). Maybe this could be added in the future..

I know it can be done with PGCedit and it works, but even reripping takes less time...

Nils

Some time ago, (same forum, different web site), others were re-ripping already ripped files, using Fab for both rips, from their HDDs, and many were getting unpredictable results.

This was addressed by Fengtao, and the problems seemed to go away - I don't know whether he fixed or spiked the procedure...

Mona's advice here has potential, and GregiBoy's comment is important, but I'm still not sure it'll work...

Just out of curiosity, after a re-rip that results in the empty extra VIDEO_TS folder, have you ever tried the original rip to see if anything has changed??

The actual change that should be done will have been done to the VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.BUP files, and it's a small change at that...

Since you seem to have PgcEdit, why not just use that to make the change, as a whole new rip shouldn't be necessary... it's just the intial JMP that needs to be re-set to the Main Menu to accomplish what you want...

DC

[noki]

Mona, thanks for your hints.
I updated to version 8.0.5.0 and tried again. I always use two HDDs for max performance, but it did not work again. I also tried to locate source and target on the same partition and on a different one (same HDD), but again to no avail.
Though, when I choose an ISO as target it works. Just not as an video_ts folder as target (stays empty). Looks like a bug to me. Can anybody reproduce it?

Nils

[noki]

Thanks, DarthCopier!

Just out of curiosity, after a re-rip that results in the empty extra VIDEO_TS folder, have you ever tried the original rip to see if anything has changed??

Good idea, will have a look at it!

GregiBoy's comment is important

Don't know...I always chose the folder that contains the video_ts folder and then DVDfab scans the subfolders for a DVD structure and analyses it. So, it seems to me that it finds what is needed :-)

The actual change that should be done will have been done to the VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.BUP files, and it's a small change at that...
Since you seem to have PgcEdit, why not just use that to make the change, as a whole new rip shouldn't be necessary... it's just the intial JMP that needs to be re-set to the Main Menu to accomplish what you want..

You are right, but with PGCedit it is not really a 1-click solution and I need to copy the files to a different HDD either way.

I remember that a long time ago (don't remember the version) the folder to folder processing worked for me...

Nils

[DarthCopier]

Re-ripping with Fab

Thanks, DarthCopier!


Good idea, will have a look at it!

Don't know...I always chose the folder that contains the video_ts folder and then DVDfab scans the subfolders for a DVD structure and analyses it. So, it seems to me that it finds what is needed :-)

OK... Fair enough... an earlier post of yours (and Mona's response) gave me strong indication that you might be trying to work directly with the VIDEO_TS folder itself...

You are right, but with PGCedit it is not really a 1-click solution and I need to copy the files to a different HDD either way.

True... but IFOEdit works directly with the files that need altering, and the results can be saved in the same folder, giving you the desired results... but there is that learning curve you'll need to experience...

I remember that a long time ago (don't remember the version) the folder to folder processing worked for me...

Probably did... all of which leads me to believe that Fengtao spiked the re-rip possibilities for Fab because of previous problems, which is why it's failing to work now...

DC

[noki]

OK... Fair enough... an earlier post of yours (and Mona's response) gave me strong indication that you might be trying to work directly with the VIDEO_TS folder itself...

I tried both the video_ts folder and the folder above for source selection. It does not make a difference for DVDfab: The structure is correctly recognized and the shown source path is the same. Why do you think it could matter? In case no DVD structure is found it would be impossible to start processing anything, isn't it?

True... but IFOEdit works directly with the files that need altering, and the results can be saved in the same folder, giving you the desired results... but there is that learning curve you'll need to experience...

Oh, I think my sentence was misleading. No, I want to make a (modified) copy on another HDD. If I alter the files directly "in place", I would have to copy them afterwards anyway.

But anyhow, as I am preparing the DVDs for my WD TV Live I'm thinking about extracting the main titlesets as plain MPEG2 files. I would not need any menu then at all.

Nils

[signals]

Here is the way it works with v8.0.5.0 and most versions (there have been exceptions in one or two releases of v7 and v8): If you UNcheck the box in Common Settings->General that says "Create files in subfolders of output directory", DVDFab will write the output in the format drive:\folder(if specified)\volumename\VIDEO_TS. For example, mine is set up to write to C:\VIDEO\volumename\VIDEO_TS so that in the VIDEO folder is a list of volume names that contain each title. When selecting the Target, select only as far as the C:\VIDEO folder (in this example), and the volumename and VIDEO_TS folders will be written there. If you want to read and write to the same destination on the same drive (i.e. the VIDEO folder), change the volume name within DVDFab before you click Start.

When selecting the Source, you can select either the volumename or the VIDEO_TS folder under the volumename for the title you want to re-process.

Reading and writing the same drive is slower than reading one drive and writing to another.

[noki]

Here is the way it works with v8.0.5.0 and most versions (there have been exceptions in one or two releases of v7 and v8): If you UNcheck the box in Common Settings->General that says "Create files in subfolders of output directory", DVDFab will write the output in the format drive:\folder(if specified)\volumename\VIDEO_TS.

Signals,
thanks for your reply, but have you tried to reproduce my problem and it really worked on your system to process a DVD structure on HDD without further compression just for modifying navigation?
The workflow you describe is exactly how I did my tests and I always have "Create files in subfolders of output directory" UNchecked. Maybe I should try to set it checked...

Nils