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**signals** · 09-02-2011, 04:20 AM

Have you tried v8.1.1.5 Beta?

The ones that play OK are fixed framerate, the ones that don't are variable framerate. I don't have a PS3 so I have no idea if it tolerates variable framerate content. I have passed this on to the DVDFab QA Team in Beijing.

Is your PS3 firmware up to date?

**Potti** · 09-02-2011, 06:41 AM

Thank you for your remind, signals.
And we verify this issue on my environment(build 8115beta, Win7 32/64.)
All of results are OK.
Source:
-NTSC-
HOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRA
AVATAR_US
-PAL-
APOCALYPSE_BD1.iso

Profiles:
mp4.h264.aac(default settings)
ps3.mp4.hd

Please try this newest build, I think it's ok.

Thanks,
Potti

**fishinggent** · 09-02-2011, 03:34 PM

Will try 8.1.1.5

Thank you guys. I will update and fix the frame rate.

Fishinggent

**whaleshark** · 09-03-2011, 04:20 AM

Frame Rate

Following this thread - Can Signals or someone advise how the frame rate is changed from fixed to variable? Which menu do I go to to check this out and/or change it from one to the other? I'd like to try this myself to see if it has any effect - I am running 2 separate PS3's - One is 'Hard Wired' directly from the 1Gb hub and the other is 'Semi hard wired' from the same hub but thru a 'NETGEAR' mains wiring connection to my second family room - one of those things that plug into a wall socket and use the house wiring as the transmission path.

Any BD rips I have done on 8085 stream flawlessly through both systems but any rips done with 8115 qt Beta only stream okay through the hard wired system - through the 'NETGEAR' house wiring system there is definite jerkiness and dropouts

Thanks

**signals** · 09-03-2011, 05:27 AM

It is done in either the profile or may be in the "pre-set" that the profile uses. They are checking this now, but it does not show up on the PS3s they test with in Beijing. Variable framerate is required for some 3D content and devices. Watch for something in the next release that will allow this to be controlled or limited to situations where it is needed. There is no guarantee that this is the problem, but it is not a hard thing to put in so that it can be tested. It was the only difference I could find in the logs of ones that worked and ones that were jerky.

The house wire ethernet should have enough bandwidth for anything you want. The slowest one I've ever seen was good for 40 mbps and most are 60-80.

**fishinggent** · 09-03-2011, 12:48 PM

8.1.1.5 Still Jerky

I BD ripped using 8.1.1.5 with conversion settings set to fixed bit rate yet the bit rate according to media info is variable. Frame rate is also variable. I dont know where to change frame rate other than in open queue-conversion settings and when clicked, the only option is same as source.

My PS3 software is up to date as firmware updates are forced, not optional.

Media info files are below of the mp4.h264.aac BD rip using 8.1.1.5 that is still jerky when played back on PS3:

General
Complete name : C:\Users\Alan\Documents\DVDFab\mp4\SHREK_FOREVER_A FTER\SHREK_FOREVER_AFTER.Title61.mp4.h264.aac.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 3.95 GiB
Duration : 1h 33mn
Overall bit rate : 6 075 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-03 02:23:45
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-03 03:29:05

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 625 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 23.974 fps
Maximum frame rate : 23.981 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.150
Stream size : 3.66 GiB (93%)
Writing library : x264 core
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-03 02:23:45
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-03 03:28:57
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 447 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 667 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 298 MiB (7%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-03 02:23:45
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-03 03:29:04

Thank you

Fishinggent

**signals** · 09-03-2011, 04:38 PM

Please try v8.1.1.6 beta, just released, and report any new results. Hope it helps.

**fishinggent** · 10-01-2011, 05:45 PM

8.1.2.0 Still not fixed. Jittery, pauses

Sorry I took so long to get back, but I just built another computer and could not test 8.1.1.6 until now.

However it still does not work when ripping BD to mp4.h264.aac. Playback is jittery and pauses for 0.25 to 1 second at a time.

I am glad i could still download 8.0.8.5, because it still works for this conversion. I dont know why it was changed in the new versions because it was working fine and none of the new versions have worked properly.

For now I must keep two versions of DVDFab on my computer to have full stated functionality. Yet there is still not full functionality because as I had mentioned long ago, none of the DPG conversions have ever worked to create playable DPGs, because no matter what frame rate is selected, it always defaults to 24, which is too much for the slow Nintendo DS. I selected DVDFab for the reason that your software claimed to convert to DPG for Nintendo, plus had lots of other features. Well, I finally bought another product to do DPG conversions, because DVDFab never did what it claims to be able to do with DPG conversions.

Anyway, enough ranting. It would be nice if you guys could just put back the same BD ripping instructions that were in 8.0.8.5, because it works and none of the new versions have been playable on the PS3. Yes, PS3 firmware is up to date. As you already know Frame rate is constant in 8.0.8.5 and variable in the later versions.

Thank you everyone for your effort

Fishinggent

Media file info on file that does not work ripped with 8.1.2.0

Code:

General
Complete name : \\NAS-82-4F-7A\media\Videos\TRANSFORMERS_3_Dark of the Moon.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 6.30 GiB
Duration : 2h 34mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 5 843 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-10-01 11:17:25
Tagged date : UTC 2011-10-01 13:05:33
 
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 392 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
[COLOR=red][B]Frame rate mode : Variable[/B][/COLOR]
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 23.974 fps
Maximum frame rate : 23.981 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.146
Stream size : 5.81 GiB (92%)
Writing library : x264 core
Encoded date : UTC 2011-10-01 11:17:25
Tagged date : UTC 2011-10-01 13:05:24
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
 
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 629 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 494 MiB (8%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-10-01 11:17:25
Tagged date : UTC 2011-10-01 13:05:32

Media file info that does work ripped with 8.0.8.5

Code:

General
Complete name : E:\Users\Alan\Documents\DVDFab\mp4\TRANSFORMERS_3_AC\TRANSFORMERS_3_Dark of the Moon.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 6.30 GiB
Duration : 2h 34mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 5 846 Kbps
Movie name : TRANSFORMERS_3_Dark of the Moon
Album : TRANSFORMERS_3_AC
Writing application : Lavf52.78.4
 
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate : 5 392 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
[COLOR=red][B]Frame rate mode : Constant[/B][/COLOR]
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.146
Stream size : 5.81 GiB (92%)
Writing library : x264 core
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
 
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 494 MiB (8%)

**whaleshark** · 10-02-2011, 02:10 AM

Jerky Video

I have this same problem with my PS3's ( 2 separate setups) - ie 8085 is fine but even the latest 8125 is 'choppy' -- For clarification - if I 'hard wire' my network connection directly to the second PS3 (don't use the present 'Powerline' arrangement - the primary PS3 is already hard wired) then the choppy video is gone and it all plays smoothly - See previous posts above re this little phenomenon - Are you hard wired, wireless or via a powerline from your HDD to the PS3? - Try a temporary direct hard wire network connection and see if this clears the problem

**signals** · 10-02-2011, 04:44 AM

Again, the only difference I can see between the two is the frame rate mode (fixed rate=works OK, variable rate=jerky). Please give the details that whaleshark mentioned on how this gets to the PS3.

**fishinggent** · 10-08-2011, 12:50 AM

Thanks for the reply guys.

The signal is getting to the PS3 via MOCA adapters that the PS3 registers data rate at 12 to 18 mbs which has always been fine for smooth playback until upgrades since 8.0.8.5. I understand that at least 6 mbs is need to stream video. With 8.0.8.5, I watch DVDFab blu ray ripped movies in extremely high quality video on a 50 inch Pioneer Elite 1080P plasma with Pioneer Elite reciever and Monitor Audio speaker producing super incredible sound via 7.1 surround setup. The quality is extremely amazing considering it is streamed from a 4 to 7 GB file on my ReadyNas. With DVDFab 8.0.8.5 Bluray rip the image and sound quality is as good to the naked eye and ear as if you put the original blu ray disk in the PS3.

My stream rate is exceptional for everything except for FVDFab conversions made by DVDFab versions greater than 8.0.8.5.

The Bottom line is that since upgrades from 8.0.8.5 ALL STREAMING IS PAUSING!

I previously Blu ray ripped Tansformers 3 with 8.1.2.0 and it would not play back r/t pausing. I immediately ripped the same disk with 8.0.8.5 (ripped mp4.h264.aac to 6.3 GB) and it played smoothly with practically the same quality as is if were playing from the original disk in the PS3.

I don't know? I am no engineer, but these issues are 100% consistant and 100% reproducible, everytime.

Why would the change from a fixed to a variable bit rate make such a difference?

Sorry that hard wiring is not an option for me without 70 feet of cable.

Thank you again for trying to figure this out.

Fishinggent

**whaleshark** · 10-08-2011, 05:28 PM

Choppy Video

As Fishing Agent notes, this problem started after 8085 which streams everything flawlessly and I can reproduce the choppy video each time from any file done with versions issued after 8085 - My solution (not a welcome one) is to hard wire the PS3 to the network but it does seem to be this 'variable framerate' that is the root cause - I can stream high rate/capacity MKV and MKV/VOB files of BD's without any problem at all, but as soon as the PS3 MP4 version is streamed, up comes the choppy video phenomenon - It would be nice to see this addressed and fixed

**fishinggent** · 10-11-2011, 10:47 PM

Any Chance on resolving this issue?

Please see reply to Signals and Whaleshark's reply to my post. I dont really care about 3D, so is it possible to have the frame rate remain at fixed and only have it changed if someone selects to rip in 3D? With the new versions past 8085 even if you change frame rate to fixed, it still comes out variable. Just like the DVDFab dpg conversion option never changes the frame rate no matter what I select, it always comes out at 24 fps which is way to fast for a Nintendo DSi.

Anyway, the heck with the DSi, the kids are into iTouch's now anyway, but I would like to see the skipping/pausing fixed for mp4.h264.aac rips. They are fantastic quality (when they dont pause)! Or if there is no intention of fixing the new problem since 8085 can you possibly let me know of another file format that will play on my PS3 (without pausing), because selecting PS3 in the DVDfab choice does not yield a playable file?

PS3 firmware is up to date.

Thanks again

Fishinggent

**signals** · 10-12-2011, 04:40 AM

I have just seen the fix list for this week and this problem is on it near the top, so it is getting attention. Hang on, it will come.

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