Warning email from Amazon

[k2000]

You can sigh all you wish. My point is valid from the angle I was trying to make it. The steps are generally the same. Something must be downloaded and then decrypted in one way or another. My whole point on it was that the behavior, download frequency and number, is probably the easiest tip off because normally people would behave very differently. So regardless of where/when you decrypt or what app you do it through the behavior is noticed. Now we could say maybe limiting downloads through the app to a number that would appear normal is key but then it would be the same with Fab as well. But in that event they would have accomplished their goal in that that type of usage would slow to a crawl.

It's wrong, I had several accounts suspended, and one for just 1 download.

[jpp72]

You can sigh all you wish. My point is valid from the angle I was trying to make it. The steps are generally the same. Something must be downloaded and then decrypted in one way or another. My whole point on it was that the behavior, download frequency and number, is probably the easiest tip off because normally people would behave very differently. So regardless of where/when you decrypt or what app you do it through the behavior is noticed. Now we could say maybe limiting downloads through the app to a number that would appear normal is key but then it would be the same with Fab as well. But in that event they would have accomplished their goal in that that type of usage would slow to a crawl.

So what you are saying is that if you download in the official supported way, they can come back to you and say that your downloading habit is concerning/suspicious???

Sure.

I am done with this conversation.

[DQ1]

Sigh... No it is not doing the same thing and, for downloading legally, I am not worried about them noticing. I don't understand what is so hard to grasp.

With StreamFab, they see you downloading a ton of shit and removing the protection. You can watch the content wherever and whenever you want. You can even stop paying for Prime and you still have the content.They ban your account.

With the PrimeVideo app, they see you download a ton of shit to your device, they don't give a fuck because you can only watch that in the PrimeVideo app and if you stop paying for prime, you lose access to it. They can even say, "I know you paid for WestWorld, but HBO says i gotta remove your access to it so, sorry, but you can't watch it anymore".

So if you use the PrimeVideo app and remove the DRM OFFLINE, they are blissfully ignorant that you now have content that they cannot control (well, a copy of it)

So when you say it does the same thing but in different order, that is not the case. It's a different procedure entirely. Accessing media files from a CDN and querying a server to get a license and feeding that to a compromised CDM is not the same as access media on a protected file system and using the built-in decryption routines in the PrimeVideo app.

You can sigh all you wish. My point is valid from the angle I was trying to make it. The steps are generally the same. Something must be downloaded and then decrypted in one way or another. My whole point on it was that the behavior, download frequency and number, is probably the easiest tip off because normally people would behave very differently. So regardless of where/when you decrypt or what app you do it through the behavior is noticed. Now we could say maybe limiting downloads through the app to a number that would appear normal is key but then it would be the same with Fab as well. But in that event they would have accomplished their goal in that that type of usage would slow to a crawl.

[Cats4U]

I am responding to the request. Here is the email header from the email I received.

Thank you. It is definitely coming direct from Amazon via Amazon SES. DKIM certifies the domain of the sender as amazon.com. As the Coca-Cola commercial used to say, "It's the real thing".

[Cats4U]

I thought the issue of the emails being authentic had been resolved. So why all this work?

Among other things, I wanted to see if it was directly from Amazon or from a third-party security company. When I started writing my request, at that point, it was not finalized whether the post was legit or not. I started the post prior to jpp72 posting his email find, but I added the third-party part after. See message number 73 above.

[Stan001]

Hi all,

There is an API updates on Amazon website when accessing the vidieo playback information, we are working on this.


BTW, a same account is used for downloading the videos every day from Amazon US/DE/UK/JP, but we are still not receive the warning email or message.

For the warning email, you may can receive it in the Amazon Message Center or the email.

Wilson

I lost count of how many have got the notice, as well as how many said Oh, I am still downloading, doing this and doing that, and not getting the notice. Yet later on, how many of those came back and said now they got the notice as well. So, yes, possible that whatever account streamfab is using (that is used for downloading the videos every day from Amazon US/DE/UK/JP) has not got it YET, but still can. And some users got suspended accounts.

So, to address the API changes/updates, does that mean that is/was the cause and will fix this issue?
And users can feel safe downloading from Amazon again?

From one thankful person, that streamfab is looking into this !!

[Wilson.Wang]

Hi all,

There is an API updates on Amazon website when accessing the vidieo playback information, we are working on this.


BTW, a same account is used for downloading the videos every day from Amazon US/DE/UK/JP, but we are still not receive the warning email or message.

For the warning email, you may can receive it in the Amazon Message Center or the email.



Wilson

[slottedpig]

Wondering if it just has to do with tv series, rented and downloaded a movie and no message in Amazon.

[TheRaven]

A question. Can Amazon detect when you analyze something? No download, just analyze.

I got my warning email on July 8 and stopped downloading right away. A few days later, I got a few TV episodes I need to complete series. I first "watched" the episodes in the streamfab browser and then downloaded one at a time. I have now completely shut it down. Going to wait and see where this goes.

[simchris]

downloading from Amazon right now.....nyahahahaaaah...

[MrGrackle]

I hope Wilson.Wang finally prioritizes fixing all the Hulu issues. If he does, then I will use Hulu and add Paramount+ & HBO Max to makeup for those Amazon channels. For the rest, Sonarr w/Newsgroups is what i will continue to use. Truthfully, it's so much better than StreamFab if you don't care about H265 and subtitles. It's all automated.

I know Roku Channel has a lot of add-ons as well.
The thing is, AMZ usually has the best AV quality, so this sucks.
Again, if there were an option to to background playback that does NOT record, but rather saves the data, that would definitely be the fix we are seeking as it would truly look like a browser is playing. Downloading the audio stream first and then the video stream, that is sort of a give away. But that might not be it at all either. For all we know, it could be something else all silly as hell.

[Sebastian001]

Let's see if and what Wilson says about this...
Maybe this will come on Thursday :

6247
New: dingdong module for dingdong porn
New: Trump module for Trump channel
Fixed: An issue where incorrect data was retrieved in the Amazon module, resulting in some users receiving complaints from Amazon.

[Sebastian001]

I hate that you had to do that but good for you ! Screw Amazon !
They lost a lot from you, hope it makes some impact !!
I have been mad since they added ads and want to make you pay even more for prime to remove the ads, and prime went up so much in a short time as it is.

If I did not order stuff like I did from Amazon, the prime would have been canceled for me as well.
It might be time to look for another place to order things?!

Amazon doesn't give a damn if someone cancels their channels. It won't even show up in the statistics. It's a constant coming and going...

[Stan001]

so should I be worried about this or not?

I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND everyone to take a complete break from downloading with streamfab from Amazon.
Most people got warnings, but others got their whole Amazon account suspended.

How long the break will need to remain is unknown, but I am not risking my one and only Amazon account right now by downloading something via streamfab.

People can attempt to open a "burner" account every X months to batch download stuff until Amazon bans that account.

For now, this idea is not for me. But I know I did it with Facebook and other platforms so you never know.

[jpp72]

I hate that you had to do that but good for you ! Screw Amazon !
They lost a lot from you, hope it makes some impact !!
I have been mad since they added ads and want to make you pay even more for prime to remove the ads, and prime went up so much in a short time as it is.

If I did not order stuff like I did from Amazon, the prime would have been canceled for me as well.
It might be time to look for another place to order things?!

I hope Wilson.Wang finally prioritizes fixing all the Hulu issues. If he does, then I will use Hulu and add Paramount+ & HBO Max to makeup for those Amazon channels. For the rest, Sonarr w/Newsgroups is what i will continue to use. Truthfully, it's so much better than StreamFab if you don't care about H265 and subtitles. It's all automated.