Warning email from Amazon

[paradox]

Post 122 is not about downloading with StreamFab. It's a different issue. His email refers to suspicious payment activity. I got that exact email myself about 1 year ago when i added my legit credit card to the fake account, loaded my Amazon Gift Card and then removed my credit card.

I had to take a picture of my card and email it to them and my account was restored.

Post 122 is about downloading with SF. (Me)

[0xFeedBeef]

Post 122 is not about downloading with StreamFab. It's a different issue. His email refers to suspicious payment activity. I got that exact email myself about 1 year ago when i added my legit credit card to the fake account, loaded my Amazon Gift Card and then removed my credit card.

I had to take a picture of my card and email it to them and my account was restored.

buy the gift card on your main account "for someone else" with your second account's email address, add the gift card code to your second account?

[DQ1]

Captain Obvious says:"if you act like a pir8 they will probably figure out you're a pir8." Still works for me just fine. Normal users don't have multiple accounts, rent without actually watching, trial and cancel repeatedly, zero or low "watch hours," account hopping, rotating IP addresses in short timespan, anonymous payment methods, low or no store purchases, etc., etc.

Normal users stream a title at streaming rates and not don't pull titles at the max speed their ISP allows. IE stream vs download. They know who you are too.

[0xFeedBeef]

This is the typical case that one encounters in business nowadays where a spotty nerd with no business acumen has an "a-ha" moment and torpedoes the business model:-


- most people watch the same stuff over and over again (so downloading it once actually saves on bandwidth in the long-term) while continuing to pay prime subscription regardless (plus channels);
- most of those who download, download for personal use, scene and torrents are, in most cases, vendor leaks (don't ask how I know, I know that for a fact);
- most of the stuff is available from torrents/file sharing sites at higher (4k/dovi) quality much cheaper (if not free);
- most of the other benefits of prime are actually useless now that there's way more online competition for the sale of physical goods than there was in 2000s (even BD series are cheaper with smaller vendors through eBay, for example)

Anyway, if I ever get that "warning." my prime video bill will go down to zero from about 300 bucks a year... Great business model, morons, carry on, Amazon I wonder what the real reason is for Bezos, Catz, and Dell dumping stock...

[Stan001]

Straight from Gemini AI...

As of July 26, 2025, the latest stable Chromium CEF release is 138.0.33+g276ed6d+chromium-138.0.7204.169, which is based on Chromium 138.0.7204.169.

You can often find the most up-to-date information on the CEF Automated Builds page (https://www.google.com/search?q=cef-...spotifycdn.com) and the CefSharp GitHub releases page.

We all know that's bad as streamfab 131.0.0.678.205 and Edge is at 138.0.3351.109 and Chrome is 138.0.7204.169

[jpp72]

see post 122 in this thread - https://forum.dvdfab.cn/forum/stream...m-amazon/page9

Post 122 is not about downloading with StreamFab. It's a different issue. His email refers to suspicious payment activity. I got that exact email myself about 1 year ago when i added my legit credit card to the fake account, loaded my Amazon Gift Card and then removed my credit card.

I had to take a picture of my card and email it to them and my account was restored.

[jpp72]

Its just frustrating that i cant stream directly the way i want for instance, i have an HTPC that i like to use with kodi and i have a preshow setup for movies, i cant use that as far as i know without having the file locally stored and in the library.

Been using Kodi since the OG Xbox days. Before it was called Kodi and before it was called XBMC.

This might be what you are looking for:

https://github.com/Sandmann79/xbmc/tree/master/plugin.video.amazon-test

Features

• access and edit Amazons Watchlist and Video Library (TLD)
• export Movies, TV Shows to Kodi Library (TLD)
• loads Covers and Fanart from TMDB/TVDB (TLD)
• additional age verification (TLD/PV, requires IS.A)
• H.265 video playback with Widevine L1 devices (TLD/PV, requires IS.A)

Only caveat is you need to run it off a certified Android device if you want HD/FHD

[simchris]

Captain Obvious says:"if you act like a pir8 they will probably figure out you're a pir8." Still works for me just fine. Normal users don't have multiple accounts, rent without actually watching, trial and cancel repeatedly, zero or low "watch hours," account hopping, rotating IP addresses in short timespan, anonymous payment methods, low or no store purchases, etc., etc.

[DQ1]

see post 122 in this thread - https://forum.dvdfab.cn/forum/stream...m-amazon/page9

People admitted to doing all sorts of different behavior and some said not at all in quite some time so I am not sure why you keep posting that but it's not anything definitive.

[lucas Zxc]

Hi all,

There is an API updates on Amazon website when accessing the vidieo playback information, we are working on this.


BTW, a same account is used for downloading the videos every day from Amazon US/DE/UK/JP, but we are still not receive the warning email or message.

For the warning email, you may can receive it in the Amazon Message Center or the email.



Wilson

so, like, this API change is the problem?
just for me to know

[october262]

As naszdom said, it wasn't "Ai" but the emails are poor and cryptic. I suspect they have handed this over to another company, likely one of those ones that copyright-troll Youtube videos.

There is no way to contact them without LOGGING IN to a dead account so I just considered it a dead-loss. I'm just glad I made a burner account and a "monthly" one, on a secondary debit card with a I use solely for subs.



I had actually changed the UA string and had uBlock installed in the internal Chromium as a possible precaution if they were to ever "fingerprint" it, but I'm not 100% if that even carries into the SF container of it.

To be honest, it would not be hard for them to see no "streams" despite a good amount of GB usage per day, HLS traffic requests much faster than realtime and API requests during analysing. . I'm actually surprised it lasted as long as it did really.


Has anybody else missed the emails (mine both went to spam) and been actually nuked?

see post 122 in this thread - https://forum.dvdfab.cn/forum/stream...m-amazon/page9

[paradox]

As naszdom said, it wasn't "Ai" but the emails are poor and cryptic. I suspect they have handed this over to another company, likely one of those ones that copyright-troll Youtube videos.

There is no way to contact them without LOGGING IN to a dead account so I just considered it a dead-loss. I'm just glad I made a burner account and a "monthly" one, on a secondary debit card with a I use solely for subs.



I had actually changed the UA string and had uBlock installed in the internal Chromium as a possible precaution if they were to ever "fingerprint" it, but I'm not 100% if that even carries into the SF container of it.

To be honest, it would not be hard for them to see no "streams" despite a good amount of GB usage per day, HLS traffic requests much faster than realtime and API requests during analysing. . I'm actually surprised it lasted as long as it did really.


Has anybody else missed the emails (mine both went to spam) and been actually nuked?

[DQ1]

There are two ways that Amazon has figured out the people are downloading (with StreamFab and its clones).

1) Lots of activity online at Prime Video, but no streaming being completed. This has already been discussed, and I think it might just be an initiating step where they decided to search for what was going on.

2) User-Agent Client Hints. Google it. This method provides all the information about the browser/client you are using to contact a server. A simple line called a User-Agent that looks something like this... Mozilla/5.0 (X11; CrOS x86_64 14541.0.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/138.0.0.0 Safari/537.36, was used on Chromium-based browsers previously. Somewhere around Chromium 90, User-Agent Client Hints became the default information transfer method. It provides a lot more information. StreamFab until relatively recently only used the User-Agent that matched the CEF that they use. Now, they seem to have a user-agent switcher that changes the User-Agent once in a while, but does nothing to change the Client Hints. Amazon is obviously using Client Hints to get their information on what browser/client you are using. Try this for yourself, in StreamFab enter the address of https://browserleaks.com/client-hints or better yet, https://www.deviceinfo.me. Amazing, how much they know about your client, aka StreamFab. The Client Hint that stands out to me is the browser - Chromium 135, but it could be anything that they are keying in on. If they see a client with a Chromium 135, they might go back and see how many complete streams of videos you watched. If you are showing 0 or a small amount and yet have a lot of activity online, the email gets sent.

I am sure it could be many things. But I don't think it's rocket science. To watch a stream, exhibits very different behavior than does downloading at max speed. Whether they outsource their CDNs or it's their own department, I am sure they can easily track who does what and the behavior of that client. I am sure they have logs that go back a year or more. They can probably run simple reports that points out the vast difference in behavior. It would stick out like a sore thumb. I am sure they could also use AI but that's not even needed I don't think. I run networks, I can do these things on my own networks and I am not a zillion dollar company.

I assume they probably sent out a random smattering of notifications based on some loose requirements. Could have been Amazon themselves, could have been someone they contracted to handle this based on who owns the CDNs. I think this was basically a warning shot across the bow. They probably really don't want to cancel accounts, they lose money that way. So they are tamping it down and saying, hey stop that.

I would imagine if it slows then they leave it alone. If it continues I would imagine they get more heavy handed. Maybe we can go back to a few safe downloads here and there, maybe not. They have probably chosen this route because it's less of a cost monetarily than changing encryption or making other major changes. At the end of the day it's all business.

Also, I am sure they read this forum. Because why would they not.

[naszdom]

When post 122 had his account suspended, that was not AI

[Sebastian001]

This is not a private chat, you have to assume someone from Amazon could be reading along!


I wouldn't be surprised if these emails were sent using AI! In other words, there's no logic involved; they're probably using AI. Nobody is sitting there sending them manually.