Warning email from Amazon

[Sebastian001]

well, in any case, I hope someone can test to see if things are safe or not

How do you want to test that? Do you think Amazon will give a GO? OK, now I can't see you anymore!

[slottedpig]

Why wouldn't they just block access to their video site? A little heavy handed to completely cancel your account.

And still --- is there a possibility of removing the DRM from stuff that you legit download to use later with their video player? We see software to do that with itunes stuff.

What software with itunes? That was a thing in the past but then it became to complicated and now i havent seen anything come up in place of that for the itunes store..

[MrGrackle]

Why wouldn't they just block access to their video site? A little heavy handed to completely cancel your account.

And still --- is there a possibility of removing the DRM from stuff that you legit download to use later with their video player? We see software to do that with itunes stuff.

[DQ1]

Just wanted to mention the way I am thinking about this just to see what others think on the topic going forward.

I don't think there is anything Fab (as software) can do such that Amazon won't know what we are doing. Amazon can read these forums and buy Fab too. Your login, your IP, your behavior, they know and they will never not know. The only question is do they care enough to put forth effort to curb it.

I assume this is a warning shot. From this point on I would not assume we get warnings prior to a ban. And if they REALLY wanted to make a point of it, they could indeed send out lawsuits to make examples of a few folks. It's happened in the past.

I plan on ceasing using Fab for now with Amazon. I will let the dust settle and go from there. I have alternate plans but I will wait.

[lucas Zxc]

As a precaution, I would not assume that.

And if that still applies:

It might also be difficult to test this ..
.. especially since the email is not necessarily sent immediately after the trigger.

well, in any case, I hope someone can test to see if things are safe or not

[Germania]

did this solve the problem of Amazon knowing who is downloading and sending emails and warnings caused by that API update?

As a precaution, I would not assume that.

And if that still applies:

BTW, a same account is used for downloading the videos every day from Amazon US/DE/UK/JP,
but we are still not receive the warning email or message.

It might also be difficult to test this ..
.. especially since the email is not necessarily sent immediately after the trigger.

[lucas Zxc]

hey guys, the new version of Streamfab has arrived, the 6.2.4.7, among the things that have changed:

New: Some improvements on the Amazon analysis and download engine.
New: Added support to analyze and download video highlights from Amazon Prime Video.


did this solve the problem of Amazon knowing who is downloading and sending emails and warnings caused by that API update?

[simchris]

I'm in US with no-commercial add-on. Been downloading a good amount lately, but haven't received anything.

same here.

[jy616]

Interesting from amazon.au. What is your normal amazon account? Did you receive both E-Mail and Amazon Message? Have you stopped downloading since you received the message?

I'm in US with no-commercial add-on. Been downloading a good amount lately, but haven't received anything.

I usually use amazon.jp.
just checked, there is no message under my account, just an email.
I stopped downloading since then.

[David_L312]

Got a warning email on 7/24.
Strange thing is that the email is sent from amazon au. I never used or logged in to that region's site.

Interesting from amazon.au. What is your normal amazon account? Did you receive both E-Mail and Amazon Message? Have you stopped downloading since you received the message?

I'm in US with no-commercial add-on. Been downloading a good amount lately, but haven't received anything.

[jy616]

Got a warning email on 7/24.
Strange thing is that the email is sent from amazon au. I never used or logged in to that region's site.

[slottedpig]

From what I see here these messages began July 8th. That's the date that Amazon Prime Day began (in the US anyway, not sure about other countries).

I mention this only because I went through my junk mail and received something from Amazon on that day that mentioned bogus phishing mails.

Then today I noticed that one of the tech sites I follow (sorry - I saw it about 6 hours ago, but I don't know how to go through notifications on my android phone), could be Tom's Guide, could be Wire Cutter... that was all about amazon phishing emails sent on July 8th.

I'm just leaving this info here. Could be relevant, might not be. I don't know.
I've not received anything relating to what's being discussed in this forum (yet?).
I have both Amazon ca and Amazon us accounts.
I just thought the date these began (as reported here) was fishy.

But people received account bans....there is currently no rhyme or reason on these messages or emails.

[filmgal]

From what I see here these messages began July 8th. That's the date that Amazon Prime Day began (in the US anyway, not sure about other countries).

I mention this only because I went through my junk mail and received something from Amazon on that day that mentioned bogus phishing mails.

Then today I noticed that one of the tech sites I follow (sorry - I saw it about 6 hours ago, but I don't know how to go through notifications on my android phone), could be Tom's Guide, could be Wire Cutter... that was all about amazon phishing emails sent on July 8th.

I'm just leaving this info here. Could be relevant, might not be. I don't know.
I've not received anything relating to what's being discussed in this forum (yet?).
I have both Amazon ca and Amazon us accounts.
I just thought the date these began (as reported here) was fishy.

[simchris]

There was someone who uses his account to purchase supplies for office regularly reported that his account got banned. It took him two emails and one phone call to get his account back, so, there is no pattern, or if there is one, no one has figured it out yet.

I guess we'll all have to wait and see. Downloaded bunch of stuff yesterday.

[MrMayor]

I suspect that *everyone* with a current Amazon account who has ever used Streamfab (or similar) to download a video will eventually get one of these emails. Those who've not yet gotten this email can't credit more circumspect use of Streamfab but rather just luck that they haven't yet been sent the email. Most likely Amazon has a list of *all* accounts they suspect have used a downloader and they are working through that list. Maybe the list is sorted alphabetically by name or user ID, or when users first subscribed, or maybe it's a random sort .. only Amazon knows.

Reading this thread and similar ones elsewhere, some who have downloaded 100s of files every week have yet to get an email, whilst others have. Some who've just downloaded a few videos in total from Amzaon have gotten the email, others have not. Some with VPNs but also some without. Some who only download have gotten the emails (but not all), but also some who watch and download have gotten the emails (but again not all). Who has gotten the email and who hasn't appears to be completely random .. or depends on whatever criteria Amazon is using to sort the list of "offenders" to send the email to. if you use SF to download from Amazon and haven't gotten an email yet ... I suspect it's just a matter of time before they get around to sending you one.

Based on the first post that I saw (Reddit) about this, it looks this was implemented around July 8th (give or take a day or two). Based on the comments I've read on here and Reddit, the ones getting the message, have downloaded something since July 8th, with a couple mentioning they got the message literally minutes after the download completed.

Even after all that I mentioned, there are still some that still haven't received anything and have downloaded since July 8th.

At the moment, I'm thinking this is a "point in time, going forward" because i would think they would have a way to rapid fire emails (or wouldn't take long to build) to people who haven't used it before July 8th.