Warning email from Amazon

[Sebastian001]

I thought the issue of the emails being authentic had been resolved. So why all this work?

[0xFeedBeef]

the way to check if it's a genuine communication from Amazon or not is to check it in your amazon messages under:

www.amazon.{whatever the domain the message came from is}/messages

if it's there, it's genuine

[Cats4U]

Yesterday, I have received the warning message as well. I've been a member with StreamFab for nearly two years, and now all of a sudden I've received this warning from Amazon. Last week, I only downloaded at least 25 episodes of a show on Prime in a day. Here is the attachment.

Were you responding to my request? If so, you didn't include the email header. See here as to how to view an email's header using your particular email reader: https://www.hostknox.com/tutorials/email/headers

[MrMayor]

I have a question, for the people who received the warning, what version of SF are you on? I'm asking because, this seem to pop up after the last (or the one before) update. I've been downloading from Amazon once a day for the past few days, each time from 12 to 22 episodes, and the most I did was more than 50 downloads in a day, but so far I haven't receive any email or message on the warning. I'm still on version 6.2.3.7.

I was kind of wondering if a version or newer could contribute towards the message.

[Eureeka1989]

Yesterday, I have received the warning message as well. I've been a member with StreamFab for nearly two years, and now all of a sudden I've received this warning from Amazon. Last week, I only downloaded at least 25 episodes of a show on Prime in a day. Here is the attachment.

[Cats4U]

I'd really like to see the header of the Amazon warning message that someone has received. So as not to reveal personal information, it'd be best to zip up the entire message including header and upload as an attachment. Only the few Trusted Members would be able to read the information.

Is it me or does it seem that it is primarily New and Junior Members on the SF forum are receiving these warning messages from Amazon. Basically, what I mean is that the member has about 20 posts or fewer on the forum. Go back and check the previous posts in this topic. Besides being new to the forum, they are probably new to StreamFab. Despite what they say, those new to SF are exactly the ones that are most likely to download 100 files for several days in a row.

And finally, just for information, when it comes to torrenting, Amazon and other providers don't check for piracy themselves. They hire third party security companies to handle that job. There really is no reason why they wouldn't do the same for direct downloads from the provider site. That might be the reason why the email seem a little less than real to some. Again, seeing the email header would be helpful.
Some have put down torrenting as unsafe. That is only true if using a public tracker. Third party security companies scour all public trackers for violators of DMCA so they can turn them in and be compensated for it. Private trackers vet their member thoroughly, and I've never read of anyone receiving a DMCA on a private tracker. I've been torrenting on private trackers for well over a decade and have never received a DMCA, even without using a VPN. I used to use newsgroups. They are very safe, as well. I just prefer private torrenting better.

[theresay]

I have a question, for the people who received the warning, what version of SF are you on? I'm asking because, this seem to pop up after the last (or the one before) update. I've been downloading from Amazon once a day for the past few days, each time from 12 to 22 episodes, and the most I did was more than 50 downloads in a day, but so far I haven't receive any email or message on the warning. I'm still on version 6.2.3.7.

[DQ1]

No, it is not. Downloading with the Amazon app is allowed. Then you decrypt the movie OFFLINE. They don't know you removed the DRM and can play it outside of the app. It's completely different.

I don't think you read my entire explanation. It's doing the same things (in general) just in a different order. But in either case you still send up the same flares of frequent downloads, possibly pulling them down faster than typical and possibly not watching them. Whether you rip the DRM off prior to download or post download it's the download.

Yes I get the app allows you to do it but the current paradigm technically allows us to do what we are getting emails now for. I get what you are saying, you are trying to figure out how to circumvent their noticing. But you won't. If they REALLY wanna stop all of it, they can, they have the resources. The only question is how much is it worth to them to do it. They knew the whole time what Fab was doing. They have just now decided to spend the resources to do something about it. This is actually a light handed way of just letting everyone to "stop, we know". In the case of the music stuff years ago they sued the hell out of some folks and financially tortured them as an example.

From here this probably goes 1 of 2 ways. They either just tamp it down with this and let it be less mainstream, or this is just a warning shot and they come hard after this.

[Sebastian001]

No, it is not. Downloading with the Amazon app is allowed. Then you decrypt the movie OFFLINE. They don't know you removed the DRM and can play it outside of the app. It's completely different.

Streamfab android


2.0.2.0 2024-09-20

• Notice: The download feature of Amazon, Netflix and other streaming services has been temporarily removed in this version.
• New: Some improvements for the video download engine.

[jpp72]

I mean that's essentially doing the same thing as now is it not? Just maybe in a different order. You still move a file from a cloud resource to your device and decrypt it at some point. Still requires the download regardless of what app it is through and I personally believe it's the action of download whether in speed or cumulative number that is the signal.

But it's maybe a window into history that could repeat. Look how Napster and others were stomped out. A small number of people got hosed but the overall effect was the industry radically changed and now we have Spotify with access to anything and 99 cent songs where prior you were forced to buy a CD for $20. It could be argued though the CD was better because you physically possessed it. So less choice but it was yours.

No, it is not. Downloading with the Amazon app is allowed. Then you decrypt the movie OFFLINE. They don't know you removed the DRM and can play it outside of the app. It's completely different.

[IronicMan]

There is always Play on or something similar

maybe i will look into that thanks.

[Sebastian001]

I haven't downloaded anything from Amazon for a while, so no series. The last time was April/May. But I had about 200 downloads per day... try entering Microsoft Copilot to see how Amazon sees it. It talks about license requests without playback. I haven't tested it on Amazon yet. But on RTL+, every episode plays before downloading. By the way, it must also affect MusicFab. Maybe Google is too stupid to create a new Widevine :-)

[Stan001]

There is always Play on or something similar

Playon has been around a long time, but at the same time, so has streamfab. (And this problem has just now started with streamfab.)
YES, Playon itself admits it records. ($39.99/year using the home version)
Downside: I hate them because, since Windows 11, they stopped the lifetime support, as well as not being easily streamed, as it has to be cast from a computer.

Cast to your
Roku, Chromecast,
Fire TV and more.

[Fogue]

To confirm, you received the warning email/message prior to this one? If so, when did you get the warning email and when did you get this one? What were your download habits (number per day/concurrently, etc) since the first mesage?

No warning, I simply received this email and my account was deactivated immediately. Currently, I only download two series per week, 720p and 1080p of the same episodes, meaning four downloads per week. I’ve been avoiding downloading anything unnecessary as much as possible to prevent this, and even so, one month after managing to recover my account, it happened again. Now, I’ll just send the information they’re asking for and try to “recover” the account. Since I live in a country where copyright laws are less strict compared to first-world countries, I’ll try to appeal. Otherwise, I would never download anything from Amazon again; I’d just get it from private sites.

[MrMayor]

i guess i will go back to playing the show on my computer and recording the screen....don't think Amazon will protest about that...i don't have a movie theatre setup with several speakers, etc...i just watch on a tv using the tv speakers so i don't think I'll notice much difference...and all my stuff is 1080p at most, some 720p or even less...also i watch a lot of older shows like the three stooges...i find the emotional satisfaction i get from watching a screen recorded show is about the same as when i watch a show with better properties-details numbers. i remember watching a screen recorded show and thought "it looks really good, is this a screen recorded show or was it downloaded?"...however, occassionally, with a scene that involves panning the camera, there can be a bit of stuttering, i guess because there is a bit too much data for the screen recorder to take in to make it smooth... the only other thing is that it will take longer because i will want to run the recording thru handbrake to reduce file size, but i think handbrake has a batch option so i could let more than one show run at night while sleeping

There is always Play on or something similar