Error Reading Discs?

[glenns]

Sometimes buying disks on eBay is risky some are counterfeits If I was you I would buy the disks from a reliable source such as Amazon,Wall mart or Best buy.Where did you buy the 2 disks your having trouble with? are they used?

Are you using log me in to access Fab ,use Fab over a web browser doing converting work or using Fab to decode disks over a web browser from a remote location as your log seems to report that's what you were doing so here's what I recommend:

Use fab only from a computer your with as Fab needs to use the web to decode disks and if your already using the web to use your computer from a remote location this will reduce bandwidth and may cause these read errors.Fab connects to the internet every time you use it to check to see if you have a active account before it allows you to use it.Streaming can also causes errors.

Here is a link for a good free software player VLC player http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlc/ As with all software downloads make sure you don't download any junk with it.This is a good software player a lot of us use.
Please tell us if the disks your having trouble with play on it and if they play on your media player if they don't your not going to be able to copy them.Don't stream from a remote location use with a computer in your presents.

[Norm@Home]

DVDFab v9.0.5.5 Error Reading Discs?

In the case of "Scent Of A Woman" the first one was used and I gave it back to the guy since it wouldn't work in any of my drives. The second one is from Walmart.

In the case of "The Incredibles" one was from a local mall store, the second was used and two were from Amazon.

I am not using LogMeIn to work with Fab, I only use it rarely when I need something from one of my computers and I'm not home. In every instance I've reported here I've been physically on the computer in question.

I'll give VLC a try and see what happens; I've also ordered a new BDR-208DBK from Amazon along with a new lens cleaning disk so we'll see what happens. It's going to take a few days to return the disk and maybe order a new one from Amazon but I'll post back when I have something more.

[signals]

In the cases where I have the discs reported with read errors, I can't duplicate it. For instance all 6 of the Star Wars BDs open with no errors. A tiny almost invisible scratch on a Blu-ray can cause problems. In the case where the same disc produced errors in different places when tried on two PCs, the errors were in roughly the same area of the disc according to the log.

[glenns]

I also had no problem with Avatar 3d and the The Incredibles" dvd however these were made with earlier versions of Fab when the disks first came out so if its a resent Fab problem one would have to make new iso's.

I don't think it's a Fab problem because of the evidence at had we have two user's complaining out of almost 35 thousand Fab members and the user complaining about his Star war's disks after asking for him to post log files has not.

Also the fact the topic starter made blu rays after and before these disks without problems so based by the facts on hand i come to conclude after testing with vso inspector that the disks are bad full of read errors also because the number of copy's of disks used and different drives used that a drive problem is unlikely making other blu rays with the same drives confirms this.

Because the user used 3-4 disks of the same movie and had problems with new and used copy's seems that a bad run of disks is likely in this case as the evidence at hand seems to point to because the user was able to make other blu rays ok seems that Fab is ok and his equipment is ok this leaves only the disks that can be bad.

[Norm@Home]

DVDFab v9.0.5.5 Error Reading Discs?

I really don't know what to make of this, I tried a fourth copy of "Scent Of A Woman" and this time I had different results and a different problem. The copy said it completed with no errors however this is a directory list of the stream folder:

 Directory of I:\Temp\Scent Of A Woman\BDMV\STREAM

07/29/2013  02:05 PM    <DIR>          .
07/29/2013  02:05 PM    <DIR>          ..
07/27/2013  12:33 AM        64,106,496 00014.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM        64,106,496 00015.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:34 AM       136,617,984 00016.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:34 AM       136,617,984 00017.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:34 AM        64,106,496 00018.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM        31,291,392 00019.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:54 AM     4,748,476,416 00023.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM         1,351,680 00026.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM         1,517,568 00027.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM         1,499,136 00028.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM         1,093,632 00031.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM         1,093,632 00032.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:33 AM         1,093,632 00033.m2ts
07/27/2013  12:34 AM        80,510,976 00105.m2ts

You can see the only file of any significant size is 00023.m2ts and that file represents 17 minutes and 26 seconds of the beginning of the movie and the rest is missing even though the copy said successful.

I'm sorry to say that I ran this one right back to the store and then promptly lost the log file. I've ordered a fifth one from a different source and I'm waiting for it to arrive.

[90312]

The M version simply means it will read and write to M discs. The layer written to is rather more like stone than aluminum foil and supposed to last 1000 years. I smoked for years and drank beer so I probably won't live to find out.

[Norm@Home]

Bdr-207m

The M version simply means it will read and write to M discs. The layer written to is rather more like stone that aluminum foil and supposed to last 1000 years. I smoked for years and drank beer so I probably won't live to find out.

Thanks for clearing that up, When GlenS said that was an overseas model I was wondering how I managed to get one from Amazon here in the USA. I'm still trying to locate a firmware update for this drive. The Pioneer website lists a version 1.30 for these drives BDR-207UBK, BDR-207EBK and BDR-207DBK and I don't think any of these will work for the 207M model.

[glenns]

The Pioneer BDR-2207 BDXL burner is the company's most powerful and full-featured drive released so far. (The drive, also available outside the U.S.) as BDR-207M (generic model), BDR-207MBK, BDR-207JBK and BDR-207UBK, is the successor of the BDR-206M(BK), which we have already tested here at CDRInfo.com. Compared to the to BDR-206M, the new new drive offers faster burning and reading speeds with CD, DVD and BD and BDXL media.

Infomation from CDRinfo.com check it out other sights call it a overseas model
because it's brought their as BDR207M a Generic model of the US models with different model numbers.Amazon sells outside of the US also and may have brought this model to serve both markets with the same drive.

Fire off a email to Pioneer and ask if theirs newer firmware for your overseas Generic model.It's possible you may use the BDR-2207 firmware but I wouldn't do it unless Pioneer tells you it's ok.

[glenns]

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=33628

Here's the full review for the drive.

BDR-207J - with XL and DVD-RAM for the japanese market and of course MIJ!
BDR-207M - with XL and DVD-RAM (probably MIC) follow up for the 206M, so probably for all markets
BDR-207D(BK) or (SV) - no XL and no DVD-RAM capabilities, worldwide, BK == black bezel, SV == silver bezel, there is even a white/grey version (should be MIC drives)
BDR-207 - same as 207D but with DVD-RAM capabilities
BDR-2207 - RETAIL version with XL and DVD-RAM for the NA market (should be MIC drives)

[Norm@Home]

DVDFab v9.0.5.5 Error Reading Discs?

I received today a fifth copy of "Scent Of A Woman" which I bought online, this disc copied perfectly and unlike the fourth disc I had a few days ago the copy not only plays perfectly but you can see here in the stream folder:

 Directory of I:\Temp\Scent Of A Woman\BDMV\STREAM

08/03/2013  12:32 PM    <DIR>          .
08/03/2013  12:32 PM    <DIR>          ..
08/03/2013  11:37 AM            55,296 00002.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM         1,345,536 00003.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM         1,345,536 00004.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           829,440 00005.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           811,008 00006.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           669,696 00007.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           430,080 00008.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           669,696 00009.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           565,248 00010.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           221,184 00011.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           221,184 00012.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM            92,160 00013.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        64,106,496 00014.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        64,106,496 00015.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:08 AM       136,617,984 00016.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:08 AM       136,617,984 00017.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        64,106,496 00018.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        31,291,392 00019.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM       136,617,984 00020.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM    44,217,354,240 00023.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,351,680 00026.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,517,568 00027.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,499,136 00028.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           473,088 00029.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,093,632 00031.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,093,632 00032.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM         1,093,632 00033.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM           737,280 00084.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:37 AM         2,297,856 00088.m2ts
08/03/2013  11:07 AM        80,510,976 00105.m2ts

That the 00023.m2ts file is over 44GB in size while the same file on the fourth disc was only about 4.7GB. I still don't understand how it's possible to get four bad discs in a row where three of them had read errors and there was something wrong with the fourth where copy said successful but didn't get the entire contents of the disc, truth be told I probably spent enough money on gas and postage to buy three copies of this disc and that's a little frustrating.

I also ordered another copy online of "The Incredibles" since it's been a year since I went through four discs without being able to play or copy / ripp them but I haven't received it yet. When I get it I hope that I have some sucess with it and I'll post back with the outcome.

Thanks,

- Norm

[90312]

It's not unheard of that manufacturing defects in discs are run in batches Norm. This might occur if getting the disc in the same store where they receive them in consecutively manufactured batches.

[GregiBoy]

And the number of titles that are produced with manufacturing defects is quite amazing. From last figures that I saw, it was running around the 20% mark. A friend of mine in the industry has had one batch with around an 80% return rate.

The mind boggles.

The impression that I get, it is cheaper for the studios to deal with replacements up to the 30% level instead of enforcing better QA.

[Norm@Home]

DVDFab v9.0.5.5 Error Reading Discs?

And the number of titles that are produced with manufacturing defects is quite amazing. From last figures that I saw, it was running around the 20% mark. A friend of mine in the industry has had one batch with around an 80% return rate.

Wow, I would have never have believed that any manufacturer could get away with selling something with that high a defect rate or that quality assurance is so nonexistent that is wasn't detected and corrected.

Thanks,

- Norm

[GregiBoy]

Admittedly, it was in the PRON industry and they seem to be able to get away with anything!

[90312]

The defect I was speaking of will not prevent playing on a set top player with it's oversampling forgiveness, they just prevent backup of 1:1 data. Playing and backing up are apples and oranges, the fact it plays is meaningless when it comes to backing up.