Subtitle default settings?

[scuba69diver]

I have another question. On all my back-up DVD's when I put them in the DVD player they all start playing with the subtitles turned on. Is there a way to change this or is this a common issue with back-ups?
Thanks again.

[W&B]

I think that would be a setting on your stand alone dvd player. now when converting dvd to mobile format there is a option select to "Display only forced subpicture" when playing back on a mobile device but not dvd to dvd.

[signals]

One of my players does that if you had the subtitles enabled for the previous movie and didn't turn them off when it was done. Very annoying. DVDFab does not change anything in DVD to DVD mode that would cause them to become forced on as Wild and Blue noted.

[scuba69diver]

Thanks for the replies and the info.

[susaninpdx]

I'm new to DVDFab. The first time I used it (today), this happened to me, too. However, I did not have the subtitles turned on when I watched the movie previous to taking my backup copy. Here's what I did:

Chose following options to copy a DVD to my hard drive:
a. DVD to DVD "main movie" (because the DVD9 original disk has a lot
of extra stuff on it, and it all wouldn't fit onto my DVD5 blank disk)
b. audio "ac-3/2" normal and director's comments both checked
c. subpicture "English normal captions" checked


Imgburn:
a. Write file/folders to DVD5 disk in "build" mode

Could the problem be that I didn't copy the menu onto the new disk, so I didn't have an option to turn the subtitles off?

Or could the problem be I had checked "subpicture English normal captions"? If the latter, then it seems as if the new disk will be burned either with or without subtitles, depending on whether I check this box or not (i.e., without the option to toggle them on or off at will).

If I have to copy the menu from the original disk in order to turn subtitles on/off, how can I recognize it in order to copy it without doing a full disk copy?

I tried to attach my logs, but repeatedly got the following error on all 3 log files: [B]"dvdfab_process.log: Invalid File" so they're below.

I would GREATLY appreciate any help. I want to buy this product, but am concerned about this problem with subtitles.

Thanks, Susan

dvdfab_burn_vso.log
2009-09-25 13:07:03 ---- ******************** Log session stop 25-Sep 13:07:03.343 PID 2612********************
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info Current Drive selected : 0:0:0 - MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-851S 1.50 [E] (Ide)
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info Using Advanced SPTI interface
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info DLL Version : 4.0.4.462
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 6\vso_hwe.dll
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info Version : 6, 0, 7, 0
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 6\DVDFab.exe
2009-09-25 12:58:53 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (Build 2600: Service Pack 3)
2009-09-25 12:58:53 ---- ******************** Log session start 25-Sep 12:58:53.265 PID 2612********************


2009-09-25 12:58:16 ---- ******************** Log session stop 25-Sep 12:58:16.171 PID 5092********************
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info Current Drive selected : 0:0:0 - MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-851S 1.50 [E] (Ide)
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info Using Advanced SPTI interface
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info DLL Version : 4.0.4.462
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 6\vso_hwe.dll
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info Version : 6, 0, 7, 0
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 6\DVDFab.exe
2009-09-25 12:06:37 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (Build 2600: Service Pack 3)
2009-09-25 12:06:37 ---- ******************** Log session start 25-Sep 12:06:37.562 PID 5092********************


2009-09-25 11:41:29 ---- ******************** Log session stop 25-Sep 11:41:29.265 PID 3856********************
2009-09-25 11:40:06 Info Writable disc DVD+R inserted. Ready to write
2009-09-25 11:39:50 Info Parsing disc ...
2009-09-25 11:38:18 Error WRITE FAILED: Can't find write strategy at sector 784
2009-09-25 11:38:11 Error Write error at 768 (16) - Code 04 09 01 [HW error, Tracking servo failure]
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Write started 2200736 sectors to write
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Init success: DVD+R
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Writing speed requested x8.0, effective x8.0
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Available write speed: 8x ,6x ,4x ,2.4x
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Media ID: SONY-D21-00
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Media type: DVD+R
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info DMA Mode
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Scanned files #9, folder #2 - total size 4505989120 b. (4.2 Gb.)
2009-09-25 11:38:01 Info Inserted media type : DVD+R
2009-09-25 11:38:00 Info Write started
2009-09-25 11:28:48 Info Writable disc DVD+R inserted. Ready to write
2009-09-25 11:28:46 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2009-09-25 11:28:46 Info Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2009-09-25 11:28:46 Info New Drive selected : 0:0:0 - MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-851S 1.50 [E] (Ide)
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info Current Drive selected : 0:0:0 - MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-851S 1.50 [E] (Ide)
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info Using Advanced SPTI interface
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info System default language : English (United States)
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info User default language : English (United States)
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info DLL Version : 4.0.4.462
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info DLL : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 6\vso_hwe.dll
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info Version : 6, 0, 7, 0
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\DVDFab 6\DVDFab.exe
2009-09-25 10:58:53 Info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional (Build 2600: Service Pack 3)
2009-09-25 10:58:53 ---- ******************** Log session start 25-Sep 10:58:53.171 PID 3856********************


Internal log:
DVDFab 6.0.7.0



DVDFab 6.0.7.0

1m 25.28s: detected dvd
1m 25.32s: drive E
1m 25.32s: video dvd 1
1m 25.32s: volume label HELLOFRISCOHELLO_1943
1m 40.14s: got copyright 1 fe
1m 40.78s: got udf/iso
1m 42.25s: got discinfo
2m 11.39s: got dvdinfo
28m 52.23s: detected dvd
28m 52.25s: drive E
28m 52.25s: video dvd 0
28m 52.25s: volume label
41m 45.00s: detected dvd
41m 45.01s: drive E
41m 45.03s: video dvd 0
41m 45.03s: volume label


DVDFab 6.0.7.0



DVDFab 6.0.7.0

5m 56.87s: detected dvd
5m 56.92s: drive E
5m 56.92s: video dvd 1
5m 56.92s: volume label HELLOFRISCOHELLO_1943
6m 44.42s: got copyright 1 fe
6m 45.04s: got udf/iso
6m 46.36s: got discinfo


DVDFab 6.0.7.0

0m 06.37s: detected dvd
0m 06.42s: drive E
0m 06.42s: video dvd 1
0m 06.42s: volume label HELLOFRISCOHELLO_1943
0m 43.09s: detected dvd
0m 43.14s: drive E
0m 43.14s: video dvd 1
0m 43.14s: volume label HELLOFRISCOHELLO_1943
0m 46.95s: got copyright 1 fe
0m 47.57s: got udf/iso
0m 48.56s: got discinfo
1m 15.60s: got dvdinfo

Process log: (This process failed, which is when I switched to Imgburn, which completed successfully).

11:28:51: Analyzing of DVD started
11:28:51: Analyzing of DVD completed successfully
11:28:51: Copy process started
11:37:59: Copy process completed successfully
11:37:59: Burn DVD folder (C:\Documents and Settings\Susan\My Documents\DVDFab\Temp\MainMovie\HELLO_FRISCO_HELLO \) started
11:39:26: Task_2 failed! Error=122

[susaninpdx]

customizing: how can I recognize the disk's menu?

I've run a few tests, with these results:
1. "Main movie" copy with "subpictures" checked then burned using Imgburn resulted in a new disk which played the movies with the subtitles always showing.
2. "Main movie" copy with "subpictures" not checked then burned using Imgburn resulted in a new disk which did not have subtitles.
3. "Full disk" copy then burned using Imgburn resulted in a new disk with a full working menu, allowing me to turn the subtitles on and off at will.

Susan

[troy512]

i only use main movie 99% of the time. on occasion i may do customize.

one of my players always defaults the subtitles when i watch a dvdfab backup, i can easily turn it off with my remote.

my other players only show the subtitles if i enable them with the remote.

[signals]

I've run a few tests, with these results:
1. "Main movie" copy with "subpictures" checked then burned using Imgburn resulted in a new disk which played the movies with the subtitles always showing.
2. "Main movie" copy with "subpictures" not checked then burned using Imgburn resulted in a new disk which did not have subtitles.
3. "Full disk" copy then burned using Imgburn resulted in a new disk with a full working menu, allowing me to turn the subtitles on and off at will.

Susan

You may have accidentally set the subtitles to "default mode", meaning the IFO file tells the player to always play them, even without pushing any buttons. When this happens a small blue arrow, called the Default arrow, appears just to the left of the checkbox you use to include or exclude the subpicture stream from processing. The arrow will only appear in Main Movie, Merge and Customize modes (and only in Customize if you remove the original menus). You can turn it off by single clicking it again.

[teddymann]

I've experienced the problem too. DVDshrink features a "hide subpicture" option which forces the subtitle to be hidden. This would be a really useful feature in DVDfab.

[sr3006]

thanks Signals,
You answered my question perfectly...I too was getting "auto" subtitles...I noticed that as I was selecting or deselecting different languages such as spanish, that little blue arrow would show up if I clicked in just the right spot...now with this info I know how to add spanish subs to my backup but doing it without having them automatically show up when I play back the movie.
You will also be glad to know that I wanted to start a new thread, but I used the search feature first.

[signals]

thanks Signals,
You answered my question perfectly...I too was getting "auto" subtitles...I noticed that as I was selecting or deselecting different languages such as spanish, that little blue arrow would show up if I clicked in just the right spot...now with this info I know how to add spanish subs to my backup but doing it without having them automatically show up when I play back the movie.
You will also be glad to know that I wanted to start a new thread, but I used the search feature first.

That's great. Glad you found your answer. It's easy to do, especially on a laptop with a touchpad or trackpoint instead of a mouse. I have done it more than once.

[sr3006]

signals,
I am now convinced that something is wrong. I have tested further and when I add spanish subtitles they automatically show up when I play back the movie...I make sure that the little blue arrow is not there. If I don't touch the subs at all and just leave the english checked all is good...no auto subs. I just finished two different movies in two different machines and the result was the same for both. And yes I am running 6.1.2.5
I did main movie only...For the soundtrack english was pre-checked and the little blue arrow is there. I added the spanish soundtrack and that works as it should...spanish sound was added to the disc and english is the default language. This just will not hold true with the subtitles. Could there be a glitch in the program?

[signals]

Certainly that is possible, and not many users make discs with those settings, so it might go unnoticed. I will find a disc with Spanish subs and try it tomorrow. Tell me which copy mode you are using (Main Movie, Full Disc etc.)

[sr3006]

I have actually used three different movies
G.I. Joe The Rise of Cobra
I Love You Beth Cooper
Aliens in the Attic

[signals]

I have actually used three different movies
G.I. Joe The Rise of Cobra
I Love You Beth Cooper
Aliens in the Attic

Which copy mode?