Apple TV: Now with sound but not multichannel

[vschoell]

Ok. It works fine with your hardwaresetting. But the profile is named AppleTV3. So i think it schould work with appleTV3 (picture and sound). Can someone from DVDFab Team please look after it. Thanks.

vschoell

[miltonberger]

Ok. It works fine with your hardwaresetting. But the profile is named AppleTV3. So i think it schould work with appleTV3 (picture and sound). Can someone from DVDFab Team please look after it. Thanks.

vschoell

Dear 90312 (and DVDFab folks),

I'm with vschoel. If you market a product which says it can rip a BD DVD to Apple TV, you should make sure it works as such, which isn't the case here. You either should change the profile name to something else like AIOS or make it right. May I suggest you purchase an Apple TV (it costs less than a single full DVDFab subscription) and test it there?

Just recaping: Neither Apple TV3 nor mp4.h264.ac3 profiles works correctly for Apple TV.

[90312]

If one of you guys with an Apple TV would invest a bit more time there is something I discovered while trying the mp4.h264.ac3 profile, the file size comes out really small. Try selecting advanced settings and clicking the dropdown menu "Video Quality" and sliding the "Bits/Pixel" all the way over to 0.5.

[vschoell]

Thanks for the hint. I've take the time an tested it..... but this doens't work either. Chopy picture .....

vschoell

[GregiBoy]

Guys....

A lot of the problem is caused by the way the iCrap handles things and lack of understanding on Fab's part how it should be handled. Also, A/V receivers provides little/no support for AAC decoding and will not give multi-channel sound output when connected using HDMI passthrough.

I have just checked the latest version 9 DVD Ripper and can confirm that this is still the case.

The proper way to encode files for the ATV's is as follows:-

1. There should be 2 audio tracks contained in the file (Fab does not do this)
2. The first track should be AAC STEREO
3. A second track should be AC-3 6 Channel (Dolby Digital). This will be used automatically by the ATV only if the A/V Receiver is connected by OPTICAL cable. DTS is NOT supported by the ATV.

So here are your options:-

A. Get rid of the ATV crap and buy a media player that supports industry standard audio tracks. I say this after about 10 years of experience and at least 50 models of media players tested. For under $100, you can grab a media player that sh1ts all over the iCrap.
B. Use free software that has been able to do this properly for the last 3 years. I have continually asked Fab to implement multiple audio, multiple subs and chapter marks contained with the file using DVD Ripper to no avail.

NB: with option B, you still MUST connect you iCrap via OPTICAL cable.

[akadennis]

Guys....

A lot of the problem is caused by the way the iCrap handles things and lack of understanding on Fab's part how it should be handled. Also, A/V receivers provides little/no support for AAC decoding and will not give multi-channel sound output when connected using HDMI passthrough.

I have just checked the latest version 9 DVD Ripper and can confirm that this is still the case.

The proper way to encode files for the ATV's is as follows:-

1. There should be 2 audio tracks contained in the file (Fab does not do this)
2. The first track should be AAC STEREO
3. A second track should be AC-3 6 Channel (Dolby Digital). This will be used automatically by the ATV only if the A/V Receiver is connected by OPTICAL cable. DTS is NOT supported by the ATV.

So here are your options:-

A. Get rid of the ATV crap and buy a media player that supports industry standard audio tracks. I say this after about 10 years of experience and at least 50 models of media players tested. For under $100, you can grab a media player that sh1ts all over the iCrap.
B. Use free software that has been able to do this properly for the last 3 years. I have continually asked Fab to implement multiple audio, multiple subs and chapter marks contained with the file using DVD Ripper to no avail.

NB: with option B, you still MUST connect you iCrap via OPTICAL cable.

Actually option B works with HDMI on my set up. Just got it to work using HB.

[GregiBoy]

HDMI 1.3 or 1.4?

[miltonberger]

Guys....

A lot of the problem is caused by the way the iCrap handles things and lack of understanding on Fab's part how it should be handled. Also, A/V receivers provides little/no support for AAC decoding and will not give multi-channel sound output when connected using HDMI passthrough.

I have just checked the latest version 9 DVD Ripper and can confirm that this is still the case.

The proper way to encode files for the ATV's is as follows:-

1. There should be 2 audio tracks contained in the file (Fab does not do this)
2. The first track should be AAC STEREO
3. A second track should be AC-3 6 Channel (Dolby Digital). This will be used automatically by the ATV only if the A/V Receiver is connected by OPTICAL cable. DTS is NOT supported by the ATV.

So here are your options:-

A. Get rid of the ATV crap and buy a media player that supports industry standard audio tracks. I say this after about 10 years of experience and at least 50 models of media players tested. For under $100, you can grab a media player that sh1ts all over the iCrap.
B. Use free software that has been able to do this properly for the last 3 years. I have continually asked Fab to implement multiple audio, multiple subs and chapter marks contained with the file using DVD Ripper to no avail.

NB: with option B, you still MUST connect you iCrap via OPTICAL cable.

Dear Gregiboy, there is an option that works with Apple TV, although needing a bit of manipulation, which was decribed in my post above on 01-10-2013, 12:43 AM.

[akadennis]

HDMI 1.3 or 1.4?

1.4

[andymac1966]

I don't really agree with all the 'flaming' that the ATV has been given in this thread - it's a simple device that works well within the known limitations that Apple have set. This suits some people.

In terms of getting BD's ripped for viewing on an ATV, I've found it easier to simply rip a BD to an HD mkv file (so I can view it on Plex etc on the media players I have that support it), then use other software to use the mkv file to produce m4v file suitable for ATV 2 or 3. Works well enough and multi channel audio works just fine through my HDMI 1.3.

Andy

[vschoell]

Hey guys,

i don't want to go around the problem. Sorry to say: i want a solution with my first love rip software DVDFab and my first love hardware AppleTV3. Sure i can use the hb software, but i want to save one step. So i bought a software for about 80 € (Fab DVD Ripper/BD Ripper) to do that job. If someone from DVD Fab Team say: No way with icrap, i don't renew the licence for the ripper part of Fab. It's so easy.

Perhaps the Fab Team can look after it? Thanks.

vschoell

[cjlowe5]

Hi Guys,

Just like to put my 2 cents worth in here also.

iCrap it may be, but ATV is popular and so easy to use even my wife can watch a movie on it (she can't program the Tivo but she can make the ATV work!).
I am a very very happy long time user of DVDFab way back to my purchase of version 5 but I too am disappointed that DVDFab cannot produce a relatively simple mp4 file that plays on my ATV with multi channel sound that plays through my perfectly good home theatre system.

I don't want yet another device to play a rip that DVDFab should get working as a matter of pride, just look at the volume of posts about this issue in the forums - users want this feature to work - period.
All the dodging and weaving is just making DVDFab look bad - Fengtao, if it is a matter of expense I will send you my ATV to test with you can have it, just please please make this work.

Thanks

[mmasse44]

I haven't had any luck with getting AppleTV3 to play any of my homegrown mp4's. I've extracted the video and audio from mkv's, created a stereo aac mixdown as the first audio stream and the ac3 as the second (as described by a previous post). No matter what I do, AppleTV only plays back stereo. But it always plays back surround on movies I've bought from iTunes.

I'd just be happy to get these mp4's working on AppleTV using *any* software. I seriously don't know what I'm doing wrong.

[vschoell]

Work on it ?

Hello DVDFab Team,

are you still working on a solution (DD 5.1 and Stereo, profile apple tv3) or do you stop working on it ? Can you please give me an info.

Thanks and greetings

vschoell

[mmasse44]

I'm totally with vschoell on this one. I bought the BD Ripper for the express purpose of creating 5.1 movies for Apple TV from my Blu-Rays. I don't want to exclude the stereo audio track as a workaround, because then I won't have the option of watching the movies with audio on my iPad.

I guess I'm the dumb one for paying for this software without confirming that an advertised feature worked. I've used free software to try to create my own mp4's, but to no avail. Even with a stereo aac and the 5.1 ac3 tracks, I only get stereo through AppleTV HDMI (and since video is also passing through my receiver via HDMI, I don't have a routing option for an optical cable). I trusted that DVDFab would resolve this issue for me. No such luck, I guess.

So as of now, if you're looking for a Blu-Ray ripper solution for AppleTV, keep looking.