The Competition

[hizbf]

Are you using Windows 7 or Windows 10? For Windows 7, you have to have a local install of version 109 of Chrome or Chromium on your system to log into YouTube in StreamFab. Close StreamFab, then log in to YouTube via your local Chrome or Chromium browser, close the browser, then next time you start StreamFab and go in to YouTube, StreamFab will import the cookies. If you are on Windows 10 or 11, use MS Edge instead.

I just tried the method you mentioned for Windows 11, but it didn't work. I was directly intercepted by Google and it indicated that it was not secure!

[Sebastian001]

They only announced they'd decided to discontinue selling lifetime licenses for AS in January - about a week before the last CDM revocation, so that doesn't exactly give me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

OTOH, consider that if SF already has all the money it's gonna get from you, what's the motivation for them to work overtime to fix the current mess, especially if other providers could go the route of Netflix's DRM in the near future? Not so pressing, right? People all over this forum are kicking themselves for recently buying a lifetime license, and I'd hate to see SF's sales figures in another 6 months.

Whereas if the only way "the competition" can maintain a revenue stream is with renewable licenses, it actually puts a lot more presure on them to deliver a working product, because otherwise people will just drop them. If the whole shebang goes the way of Netflix within the next year, then you can just walk away without having invested too much.

It depends on what you paid for a lifetime license.

A Streamfab currently costs 279 for life.
2 years Redfox 125

They are now taking advantage of Streamfab's defeat.

Either way we're getting ripped off everywhere...

But the Redfox forum is a bit strange, it reminds me of a dictatorship...

[jpp72]

Sayonara!

[Exxar]

Hate to see you leave JPP72, but I really understand your decision.



I too have tried the Anystream software, and for what I want (amazon), it works really good. I consider buying the license, because my lifetime streamfab license isn't worth anything anymore.

[Chameleon]

There comes a point even with the competition and this idiotic program, that they just can't fix it when the Motion Picture Association puts the clamps on your downloading you are screwed. They probably made it very hard or impossible to fix, so stop all this complaining (Me too)I don't think either one
of them can fix it, so watch what you have and be happy you got it. It's over. At this point you can still download from them, be happy that they are still trying. I came to this conclusion last night, if it's impossible they can't do it.

[bricks]

Sayonara!

but now we now know that "myfans" exists.

[bricks]

There comes a point even with the competition and this idiotic program, that they just can't fix it when the Motion Picture Association puts the clamps on your downloading you are screwed. They probably made it very hard or impossible to fix, so stop all this complaining (Me too)I don't think either one
of them can fix it, so watch what you have and be happy you got it. It's over. At this point you can still download from them, be happy that they are still trying. I came to this conclusion last night, if it's impossible they can't do it.

Everything works for the competitor. so it can be fixed. and not in the form of a program, but in the form of scripts, it still works.

[Chameleon]

It depends on what you paid for a lifetime license.

A Streamfab currently costs 279 for life.
2 years Redfox 125

They are now taking advantage of Streamfab's defeat.

Either way we're getting ripped off everywhere...

But the Redfox forum is a bit strange, it reminds me of a dictatorship...

What does it matter what it costs or what the forum is like, did you go there for the forum or the software? If you think you are getting ripped off you most probably are. Don't give them any more money, I am done wasting my time.

[KidJoe]

Wow, this thread has grown, and quickly.

Wilson.Wang DVDFab Staff I agree with jpp72 that adding a new module is in poor taste when its a service very view people have heard of and would likely use. Its a distraction from the developers and going forward will take more time from the developers to maintain.

The big ones are Amazon, Netflix and Disney+, if they fail, they should be top priority. I'm sure way more people paid for StreamFab to download from the big 3, than from the adult/porn sites. And as we know, Amazon and Netflix are down, and Disney+ is experiencing issues. If you can't fix them, this app will no longer have users.

[Sebastian001]

What does it matter what it costs or what the forum is like, did you go there for the forum or the software? If you think you are getting ripped off you most probably are. Don't give them any more money, I am done wasting my time.

You got that wrong. Possibly because of the translation.
I didn't go to Redfox. I used the 21 day trial, no more of it! I've already mentioned that I don't pay anything anymore. Back then I switched from Combo to All in Lifetime... I once thought about buying Music Fab, but I'm not doing that anymore!

[Sebastian001]

Sayonara!

Jack, it was foreseeable that you would take this step. You helped me a lot here in a few points. THANK YOU, I still think your MPD analysis tool is great....

[Chameleon]

Jack, it was foreseeable that you would take this step. You helped me a lot here in a few points. THANK YOU, I still think your MPD analysis tool is great....

I have said it 100 times, it's hard to Moderate a good forum with great software, people always are going bitch and moan about something, they are going to take threads off-topic and yes I am talking about a forum where the developers can fix issues, now here you have a forum where the developers have no clue about what the customers want or how to fix even small issues when they come up, there is no communication between Mods and developers here, so how can you expect an unpaid Moderator to back this program if the developers are not going to tell them whats going on? The Mods are the front line. They take all the flack, and it's not fair to them or the customers. The developers have to be truthful with the Mods, if not the Mods look like idiots and all they are trying to do is help. It's an impossible job and jpp72 and cats4U did an admirable job under impossible circumstances. Most of us here in the thread have owned the program for a while, and I have said it before, I got my money's worth. But for the
newbies that are just putting down over 300 bucks, I feel for them. They are getting flat-out ripped off and it is not fair. Just my 2 cents.

[NewMelle]

Sorry to see you step down jpp72 but I fully understand. Many thanks for all you've done for us!

I agree. While the big 3 are inoperable or barely operational adding another obscure downloader only adds insult to injury.

No, we still don't have steak yet so here's a hot dog for you. Sorry, we're out of mustard too but would you like peanut butter on that hot dog?

[KidJoe]

3 months ago, I wrote a thread in the subreddit group titled "I'm finding myself using Streamfab less... and the competitor more..." (I do post under a different name on Reddit). You could consider it a rant if you will. But I expressed my views on Fab and what was the state of affairs at the time.

2 months ago, in the Anystream subreddit someone else started titled "In your experience, how does AnyStream compare to StreamFab or KeepStreams?" and I posted a reply with my feedback on the likes/dislikes of them.

I've considered posting them here too, but I still feel it more proper to mention other products as little as possible here. I know we've spoken of the StreamFab subreddit in another thread, but I will say since its not an official support channel, I do speak more freely about the Fox over there, and I'm more frank with my comparisons.

The other day, I posted more thoughts in the "what was the length of DRM crack time..." here.

There are some valid points scattered all over. For example:

• At this point, we know that there is at least one way Amazon DRM can be cracked/fix without the need for re-encode because the Fox has done it. If you follow their forums, Amazon is still making some small tweaks/changes that are having minor impacts, but for the most part, those too have been fixable, and very quickly.
  • So its not unreasonable to expect FAB to have at least fixed DRM on theirs by now without the need for having to re-encode.
• Simple bugs still exist in StreamFab, at least if they can't fix DRM, fix the minor non-DRM related bugs that continue to plague it version to version.
• Not everyone has a state of the art computer. Even those who have recent/up to date hardware still see re-encoding as a drag and it extremely elongates the end to end downloading process. Its a Band-Aid and not a very good one. Something isn't always better than nothing.
• Even though as a user, lifetime license is preferred, annual licenses are a motivating factor for a company to keep improving and fixing things, especially if they want their customers to renew and pay again. Where as lifetime subscription they have your money, so there is less financial pressure to fix things. At the same time I have also wondered how a software company can keep paying for development and keeping the lights on, with lifetime licenses? What is their revenue stream?

Fab is lucky that the Fox only takes bitcoin, and that turns off many users, as does the 1 year and 2 year license. I was lucky to have bought in when they accepted credit cards and lifetime license. BUT even with the hassle of having to figure out Bitcoin and the like, I've seen many people jump the Fab ship. Even with their different approach/UI/workflow, I feel the more that try The Fox's app, the more will jump ship so they can download without the re-encoding step, without many of the bugs, and due to their faster fix times when bugs are found.

At that point, StreamFab will be done.

And this entire experience is going to impact DVDFab's over all reputation as well. How many potential new customers are going to look at this and feel good about purchasing other FAB products?

Wilson.Wang DVDFab Staff please take some time to read the book Customer Satisfaction is Worthless, Customer Loyalty is Priceless its also available on Amazon and think about this current situation.

[NewMelle]

I have said it 100 times, it's hard to Moderate a good forum with great software, people always are going bitch and moan about something, they are going to take threads off-topic and yes I am talking about a forum where the developers can fix issues, now here you have a forum where the developers have no clue about what the customers want or how to fix even small issues when they come up, there is no communication between Mods and developers here, so how can you expect an unpaid Moderator to back this program if the developers are not going to tell them whats going on? The Mods are the front line. They take all the flack, and it's not fair to them or the customers. The developers have to be truthful with the Mods, if not the Mods look like idiots and all they are trying to do is help. It's an impossible job and jpp72 and cats4U did an admirable job under impossible circumstances. Most of us here in the thread have owned the program for a while, and I have said it before, I got my money's worth. But for the
newbies that are just putting down over 300 bucks, I feel for them. They are getting flat-out ripped off and it is not fair. Just my 2 cents.

Ditto, ditto, ditto, and ditto!