The Competition

[galloitaliano]

So people (who probably paid $200+ for Streamfab), should turn around and pay the same amount again to Kigo? $50 per year (or $80 lifetime) for each streamer and apparently Kigo does the same thing Streamfab is currently doing. In this case, it would be cheaper to keep using Streamfab (if the person is OK with the current method) or paying to use Anystream

No, no. I paid around $180 for Kigo Movie One, which includes all the supported streaming sites. That's what you'd pay for Movpilot.

[artsunlimited]

No, no. I paid around $180 for Kigo Movie One, which includes all the supported streaming sites. That's what you'd pay for Movpilot.

More fool you, then. For $135 you could've bought a 2-year license for Anystream and actually be downloading, rather than piddling around with a version of this re-encoding clusterf**k's first cousin.

Again, why are you here pushing a screen recorder when those of us who actually know the difference are irate that PornFab still hasn't figured out that trying to shove a screen recorder down our throats in place of the downloader we bought isn't acceptable? While still trying to con the gullible into buying SF - by claiming it's still a downloader? If people want an actual alternative for SF when it was a downloader, they know where to find the real thing.

[hizbf]

More fool you, then. For $135 you could've bought a 2-year license for Anystream and actually be downloading, rather than piddling around with a version of this re-encoding clusterf**k's first cousin.

Again, why are you here pushing a screen recorder when those of us who actually know the difference are irate that PornFab still hasn't figured out that trying to shove a screen recorder down our throats in place of the downloader we bought isn't acceptable? While still trying to con the gullible into buying it - by claiming it's a downloader? If people want an actual alternative for SF when it was a downloader, they know where to find the real thing.

I just went to the official website of Kigo Movie One and it said that this downloader is a software for recording videos. This is what the official website says: Seamless record videos from Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+, Max, Hulu, and more with our all in one solution Enjoy your favorites offline anytime, anywhere

I recently found another software: VidJuice Unitube. I'm not sure if it's a video recording software

[artsunlimited]

I just went to the official website of Kigo Movie One and it said that this downloader is a software for recording videos. This is what the official website says: Seamless record videos from Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+, Max, Hulu, and more with our all in one solution Enjoy your favorites offline anytime, anywhere

I recently found another software: VidJuice Unitube. I'm not sure if it's a video recording software

C'mon, you already have the clue right there.

You mean the official website that also states "Most video streaming services protect their content against 'direct download'. A DRM is used, which effectively prevents the original video file from being downloaded from the provider. KigoSoft Software respects this protection and never circumvents it, and therefore does not offer the possibility of downloading such content directly. ... It never accesses encrypted video data and is therefore not able to record and save such content. However, video content that is not protected by the provider against recording can be recorded by KigoSoft. To do this, such videos have to be played back completely; a new video file is then created from the unencrypted video images displayed (so-called "screen recording") without any protection being circumvented."

That one?

There's a reason why its "free trial" consists of only the first 5 minutes of a video. There's also a reason why there's no forum. Now guess why that is.

VidJuice Unitube not only has a site that's blocked by my AV as being malicious, it's only for FB, Vimeo, Instagram, DailyMotion and other sites that don't have much in the way of DRM protection, so most screen recorders that don't come chock full o' malware can access their content.

[hizbf]

C'mon, you already have the clue right there.

You mean the official website that also states "Most video streaming services protect their content against 'direct download'. A DRM is used, which effectively prevents the original video file from being downloaded from the provider. KigoSoft Software respects this protection and never circumvents it, and therefore does not offer the possibility of downloading such content directly. ... It never accesses encrypted video data and is therefore not able to record and save such content. However, video content that is not protected by the provider against recording can be recorded by KigoSoft. To do this, such videos have to be played back completely; a new video file is then created from the unencrypted video images displayed (so-called "screen recording") without any protection being circumvented."

That one?

There's a reason why its "free trial" consists of only the first 5 minutes of a video. There's also a reason why there's no forum. Now guess why that is.

I just found out that VidJuice Unitube, YT Saver, and iTubeGo are from the same company because their interface is the same and the list of websites they support for downloading is also the same!

Add some more things:
Kigo and SameMovie, TunePat, FlixiCam, NoteBurner, DispCam, TuneBoto, VidiCable, Macsome, NoteCable, Sidify are from the same company, Allavsoft and Bigasoft are from the same company, Pazuvideo and Kigo have similar interfaces, StreamFab and BBFly, FlixPal, KeepStreams, MyConverters, MyStream, StreamGaGa, Vidus, YouTub, Y2mate Downloader are from the same company.

[Chameleon]

No. That was never an issue to me.

You're an idiot.

[galloitaliano]

More fool you, then. For $135 you could've bought a 2-year license for Anystream and actually be downloading, rather than piddling around with a version of this re-encoding clusterf**k's first cousin.

Again, why are you here pushing a screen recorder when those of us who actually know the difference are irate that PornFab still hasn't figured out that trying to shove a screen recorder down our throats in place of the downloader we bought isn't acceptable? While still trying to con the gullible into buying SF - by claiming it's still a downloader? If people want an actual alternative for SF when it was a downloader, they know where to find the real thing.

Could you tell me the difference between a screen recorder and a downloader? What does a screen recorder do? How long does it takes to record a 95 min movie?

[galloitaliano]

You're an idiot.

Oh, really? Thanks a lot, enlighten one. If I'm an idiot, then you're on the opposite realm of stupidity, right? Well, that's quite impressing. I wish I was as smart as you are.

[Chameleon]

Oh, really? Thanks a lot, enlighten one.

Do you want us to spend more money to replace one screen recorder with another? If everyone in this thread wanted a screen recorder, they have one already. Please go ask Google what a screen recorder is and then find out what a real downloader is.

[galloitaliano]

Do you want us to spend more money to replace one screen recorder with another? If everyone in this thread wanted a screen recorder, they have one already. Please go ask Google what a screen recorder is and then find out what a real downloader is.

Wait a minute are you saying StreamFab is not a downloader but a screen-recorder? I didn't know that. I guess asking Google what the difference between a downloader and a screen-recorder is it's not a bad idea, after all.

[smithbrad]

Wait a minute are you saying StreamFab is not a downloader but a screen-recorder? I didn't know that. I guess asking Google what the difference between a downloader and a screen-recorder is it's not a bad idea, after all.

It was a downloader a few months back but now is a screen recorder, which is why everyone is frustrated.

[artsunlimited]

Could you tell me the difference between a screen recorder and a downloader? What does a screen recorder do? How long does it takes to record a 95 min movie?

Have you read ANY of the posts from our two jerked-around-by-SF ex-Moderators for the last 4 months? And if not, WHY NOT?

Since you already stated you owned Kigo before you bought SF before the CDM revocation and you still don't grasp the difference, especially after what I posted just 3 comments before this, I doubt that anything I could tell you at this point would make much of an impact - especially given your last question - but if it'll prevent you from hawking any more screen recorders here, let's do it.

A direct downloader is just that - it bypasses DRM encryption and downloads the file directly from the source. How long it takes will depend entirely on your internet connection and what speed the program can deliver - realtime (1x) or 8x or unlimited. SF used to be a downloader. It has not been one since version 6.1.6.7.

A screen recorder does exactly that - records streaming video. It's what SF has now been turned into - basically a Cleverget-type screen recorder. Instead of cracking the DRM encryption, it relies on re-encoding: it streams the video and records it at a high rate of speed at your desired resolution, then reformats it. That processing phase can take hours, as it's not only dependent on the file length, but your CPU, memory speed and drive type. The result will NOT have the same video or audio quality as a direct download because it's a screen recording. If the video has ads, removing them increases the odds that the video will go out of sync with the audio, the longer it plays.

This is why touting other screen recorders as a "solution" - when no one wants the one that's been foisted on us because PornFab knew it was going to bail on cracking anything three months before the DRM change in January, but would keep claiming it was working tirelessly anyway - is, to put it mildly, an extremely ill-timed move on your part.

[artsunlimited]

Wait a minute are you saying StreamFab is not a downloader but a screen-recorder? I didn't know that. I guess asking Google what the difference between a downloader and a screen-recorder is it's not a bad idea, after all.

Really? Then why, after having bought KigoSoft previously, did you bother buying StreamFab, since to you they must be one and the same thing?

Were you awake when you bought SF? Do you customarily buy software while having no frickin' clue what it actually does? Do you habitually jump into an 8-page thread, especially one entitled "The Competition" that's discussed the direct download properties of a software that's beating PornFab's arse, without reading any of the previous comments? Because damn.

[galloitaliano]

It was a downloader a few months back but now is a screen recorder, which is why everyone is frustrated.

Thank you sir, for your kind reply.

[NewMelle]

No. That was never an issue to me.

I need just a little more than that. Only 5 minutes of video is a bit like trying out a new guitar with only one string on it. Test driving a new car in only first gear. Taste testing a hamburger yet only getting the bun. Rating a 4 course meal on the salad alone. Reviewing a musical with all but one tune muted. You get the picture.

The only thing companies like KigoSoft and SF have in common is obfuscation in order to deceive. Just enough hype and BS to lure in uninformed or naive customers. I'm one who is not easily fooled but it does happen (SF's lifetime license is a good example). It won't happen twice. As the saying goes "F me once, shame on you. F me twice shame on me."

Comparing 5 minutes of video (KigoSoft and all their clones) to 31 complete downloads over 21 days (AS) illustrates a huge contrast and is akin to comparing opaque to transparent (in that order). (And yes, that was a play on the word "transparent")