The Competition

[Sebastian001]

Is that correct?

For Streamfab I have 700 downloads per week for each provider.

At Redfox 280 downloads for all providers combined.

[galloitaliano]

Have you read ANY of the posts from our two jerked-around-by-SF ex-Moderators for the last 4 months? And if not, WHY NOT?

Since you already stated you owned Kigo before you bought SF before the CDM revocation and you still don't grasp the difference, especially after what I posted just 3 comments before this, I doubt that anything I could tell you at this point would make much of an impact - especially given your last question - but if it'll prevent you from hawking any more screen recorders here, let's do it.

A direct downloader is just that - it bypasses DRM encryption and downloads the file directly from the source. How long it takes will depend entirely on your internet connection and what speed the program can deliver - realtime (1x) or 8x or unlimited. SF used to be a downloader. It has not been one since version 6.1.6.7.

A screen recorder does exactly that - records streaming video. It's what SF has now been turned into - basically a Cleverget-type screen recorder. Instead of cracking the DRM encryption, it relies on re-encoding: it streams the video and records it at a high rate of speed at your desired resolution, then reformats it. That processing phase can take hours, as it's not only dependent on the file length, but your CPU, memory speed and drive type. The result will NOT have the same video or audio quality as a direct download because it's a screen recording. If the video has ads, removing them increases the odds that the video will go out of sync with the audio, the longer it plays.

This is why touting other screen recorders as a "solution" - when no one wants the one that's been foisted on us because PornFab knew it was going to bail on cracking anything three months before the DRM change in January, but would keep claiming it was working tirelessly anyway - is, to put it mildly, an extremely ill-timed move on your part.

I have not. I have a life outside this forum, you know. I work. I do other stuff, this is just a hobby for me, I don't take it seriously. Kigosoft does exactly what a downloader does, according to your own description.

[Sebastian001]

probably with recode

Definitely Recode. I have installed "Vidus" and "MyConverters". It also has the StreamClient.exe under the hood, which is the Recode Tool.

I was actually looking for the changelog for her twins, but no trace, they don't list it anywhere. Not even in the updater itself.

[galloitaliano]

Really? Then why, after having bought KigoSoft previously, did you bother buying StreamFab, since to you they must be one and the same thing?

Were you awake when you bought SF? Do you customarily buy software while having no frickin' clue what it actually does? Do you habitually jump into an 8-page thread, especially one entitled "The Competition" that's discussed the direct download properties of a software that's beating PornFab's arse, without reading any of the previous comments? Because damn.

Because I was looking for a PlutoTV downloader, I was impressed with its performance, and went for more, doesn't have anything to do with me disliking Kigosoft or anything of that sort.

[galloitaliano]

I need just a little more than that. Only 5 minutes of video is a bit like trying out a new guitar with only one string on it. Test driving a new car in only first gear. Taste testing a hamburger yet only getting the bun. Rating a 4 course meal on the salad alone. Reviewing a musical with all but one tune muted. You get the picture.

The only thing companies like KigoSoft and SF have in common is obfuscation in order to deceive. Just enough hype and BS to lure in uninformed or naive customers. I'm one who is not easily fooled but it does happen (SF's lifetime license is a good example). It won't happen twice. As the saying goes "F me once, shame on you. F me twice shame on me."

Comparing 5 minutes of video (KigoSoft and all their clones) to 31 complete downloads over 21 days (AS) illustrates a huge contrast and is akin to comparing opaque to transparent (in that order). (And yes, that was a play on the word "transparent")

I wouldn't recommend something I haven't tested myself. You take it or you leave it, its up to you. I also own iTube Studio which promotes itself as a prolific downloader, it's all lies. doesn't even download a video from youtube, you'd be better off using a Firefox addon than iTube. I have not use it lately so cant really say if they have made improvements

[theresay]

galloitaliano Streamfab is still a downloader for SOME of its modules: Disney+, Hulu, Tubi, Crunchyroll, Paramount+ (if it works). It's the two biggest global streamers, Amazon and Netflix, that it's struggling with. Netflix it can still download contents from before the DRM change, but Amazon you can just forget about it, it's useless. Since 90% of people bought this software for Amazon and Netflix (including me), the current situation is frustrating to say the least.

[artsunlimited]

I have not. I have a life outside this forum, you know. I work. I do other stuff, this is just a hobby for me, I don't take it seriously. Kigosoft does exactly what a downloader does, according to your own description.

Apparently you don't take reading comprehension seriously either. A screen recorder that records/re-encodes, but doesn't download a file, doesn't "do exactly" what a direct downloader that decrypts the DRM to access that video does.

And I've pointed out that as KigoSoft makes it very clear that it doesn't circumvent the DRM, to keep insisting that it functions exactly like a direct downloader really suggests that the "other stuff" you do consists of mostly denying reality.

[galloitaliano]

galloitaliano Streamfab is still a downloader for SOME of its modules: Disney+, Hulu, Tubi, Crunchyroll, Paramount+ (if it works). It's the two biggest global streamers, Amazon and Netflix, that it's struggling with. Netflix it can still download contents from before the DRM change, but Amazon you can just forget about it, it's useless. Since 90% of people bought this software for Amazon and Netflix (including me), the current situation is frustrating to say the least.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I was just wondering about this because I'm downloading a video on PlutoTV and thought of asking here on the forum if its a global thing or not, but you answered it before I could ask. Awesome!

[theresay]

Is that correct?

For Streamfab I have 700 downloads per week for each provider.

At Redfox 280 downloads for all providers combined.

The fox now has 500 across all providers, but the way it replenishes is you gain one back every 10 minutes or so. So if you used all your quota it takes about 4 days to get back to full. Or you download one video every 10 minutes...

[NewMelle]

Is that correct?

For Streamfab I have 700 downloads per week for each provider.

At Redfox 280 downloads for all providers combined.

I guess I should have been more specific. Those numbers were for the trial versions.

I have 500 downloads available in AS as of today. But, I don't go hog wild. I space out my downloads. I may grab a movie or two or a half dozen episodes a day.

Those limits are there for a reason. For example Paramount+ is hyper sensitive to the amount of content consumed in a certain amount of time. This resulted in a 403 Forbidden error when I was attempting to log in. After contacting support I found out my IP was blocked. I now use Amazon for P+ content.

[NewMelle]

Just as an example I was grabbing something to watch this evening and if it's good I'll buy it. My 500 dropped to 499. Between my last post and this one it is back up to 500.

[galloitaliano]

Apparently you don't take reading comprehension seriously either. A screen recorder that records/re-encodes, but doesn't download a file, doesn't "do exactly" what a direct downloader that decrypts the DRM to access that video does.

And I've pointed out that as KigoSoft makes it very clear that it doesn't circumvent the DRM, to keep insisting that it functions exactly like a direct downloader really suggests that the "other stuff" you do consists of mostly denying reality.

So you're saying Kigsoft does not download the target video? Ok. If that's the case. Congratulations. You solved it all. I gotta love you, genius. Please keep calling me ignorant, the more you do it, the smarter I get (or should I say, will get? Remember I'm an idiot, I'm dumb, aI'm stupid, so please enlighten me with your incomparable wisdom).

[artsunlimited]

galloitaliano Streamfab is still a downloader for SOME of its modules: Disney+, Hulu, Tubi, Crunchyroll, Paramount+ (if it works). It's the two biggest global streamers, Amazon and Netflix, that it's struggling with. Netflix it can still download contents from before the DRM change, but Amazon you can just forget about it, it's useless. Since 90% of people bought this software for Amazon and Netflix (including me), the current situation is frustrating to say the least.

I think it's pretty clear that they're not "struggling" with anything any longer, unless it's how quickly they can add more porn modules and cram more holidays into the month. Netflix is well beyond their capacity, and they never even took a whack at Peacock. Remember, they knew in October that the CDM was going to be revoked in January, and did nothing to get ahead of it, simply because they knew they didn't have the talent, and it wasn't worth it to them to hire anyone who could do the job. They figured we'd all be dumb enough to think their lousy version of Cleverget was acceptable, and just moo and go back to the stable so they could milk us for more money. At some point the "we're a downloader!" fiction will catch up with them, but don't look for them to provide any signicant maintenance on this software as a downloader from now on.

[Chameleon]

Is that correct?

For Streamfab I have 700 downloads per week for each provider.

At Redfox 280 downloads for all providers combined.

Redfox is 500 downloads to start and then 1 gets added back every 7 minutes. Think about this, Fab may give you 700 downloads every 24 hours, but if each takes 15 minutes, you can only download 4 an hour, 4X24 hours = 96 a day maximum.

[artsunlimited]

So you're saying Kigsoft does not download the target video? Ok. If that's the case. Congratulations. You solved it all. I gotta love you, genius. Please keep calling me ignorant, the more you do it, the smarter I get (or should I say, will get? Remember I'm an idiot, I'm dumb, aI'm stupid, so please enlighten me with your incomparable wisdom).

I already did say it - as did others. Several times, in fact, most notably in comment 117. I'd normally assume you couldn't be arsed to read it because you're still asking for confirmation, except that you quoted it while claiming that "according to [my] own description" Kigosoft must be a downloader. Your choices at this point are either that you didn't actually bother to read it, or that you still couldn't comprehend what it meant.

And other than stating that purchasing a screen recorder when you want a downloader is a foolish move, I haven't called you an idiot, dumb, stupid or any other pejorative, so you can just slow your roll right there.

There's generally no shame in being ignorant, since ignorant people can always be educated and banish their lack of knowledge - if they actually want to learn. Then there are people who don't. When they're shown the knowledge that they lack, they still insist that's it's wrong, or that's not what it means, or whatever defensive denial they need to prove to themselves that they're in the right, while derisively calling out the "incomparable wisdom" of anyone who's trying to educate them because denigrating their knowledge is more important than learning something. That's not ignorance, but stupidity, and it can't be overcome - hence the phrase "you can't fix stupid." It's up to you to figure out which category applies to you.