DVD jumpy playback

[Potti]

Repro this issue on DVD player and somoe BD player, and NOT repro on PS3 and computer(TMT3/PowerDVD). So maybe this is a issue form hardware buffer. Now devs are fixing this issue.

Thanks,
Potti

[maineman]

Hey eon, sorry to be so long getting back to you.
I converted Armegeddon BD, Region A, Main Movie (30.8 GB)
to standard dvd9, 7.94 GB, burned to Verbatim MKM 001 (MIS).

The only departure from my usual was using VSO.
I use Img almost exclusively, but Img told me it was not able to properly position a layer break.
Yes, I could have hassled with it, but I'm late and gotta get moving so I just selected VSO instead.

(Generally, I'm not burning much these days anyway.
I'm archiving everything to hdds and playing via my Argosy MP)

The dvd9 plays flawlessly in my standalone...Pioneer DV-48AV and in my son's PS3 (and of course, my pc).
No problems at all

We're in the process of moving, but if I can locate one of my kids' standalones, I'll give it another shot at playback.

Looks like the dev team is suspecting a hardware buffer issue.
In any case, they're working on it and hopefully will have a fix in soon.

@Potti
Thanks for the info.
Really appreciate your efforts



Here's the VSO burn log:

2010-12-07 10:09:23 ---- ******************** Log session stop 07-Dec 10:09:23.402 PID 1944********************
2010-12-07 10:09:01 Info WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2010-12-07 10:09:01 Info Finalization Time 00:01:17 - Total completion time 00:27:33
2010-12-07 10:07:43 Info Write finished in 00:26:15 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 4.29
2010-12-07 09:41:32 Info Lead-in burning time (mS) 4660
2010-12-07 09:41:27 Info Write started 4160864 sectors to write
2010-12-07 09:41:27 Info Init success: DVD+R Dual Layer
2010-12-07 09:41:27 Info Init DVD+R Dual Layer: Layer change set to LBA 2080448 (3.97 Gb.)
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Writing speed requested x4.0, effective x4.0
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info layer break set by filesystem builder at 0
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Available write speed: 4x ,2.4x
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Media ID: MKM-001-00
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Media type: Dual Layer DVD+R
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Ultra DMA mode 5 (ATA100)
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Scanned files #12, folder #2 - total size 8520327168 b. (7.94 Gb.)
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Inserted media type : DL DVD+R
2010-12-07 09:41:18 Info Write started
2010-12-07 09:41:14 Info Writable disc DL DVD+R inserted. Ready to write
2010-12-07 09:41:12 Info Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2010-12-07 09:41:12 Info Drive has Serial ATA physical interface
2010-12-07 09:41:12 Info New Drive selected : 5:0:0 - Optiarc DVD RW AD-7240S 1.01 [F] (Ide)
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info Current Drive selected : 4:1:0 - LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1S 9L08 [E] (Ide)
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info Using Advanced SPTI interface
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info System default language : English (United States)
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info User default language : English (United States)
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info DLL Version : 4.0.13.476
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info DLL : C:\Program Files (x86)\DVDFab 8\vso_hwe.dll
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info Version : 8, 0, 5, 5
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files (x86)\DVDFab 8\DVDFab.exe
2010-12-07 09:40:41 Info OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (Build 7600)
2010-12-07 09:40:41 ---- ******************** Log session start 07-Dec 09:40:41.890 PID 1944********************
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[eon_designs]

maineman

Thanks for the reply. Hopefully it is a buffer thing. Actually I have not encoded to DVD9 yet - I always go to DVD5 - I wonder if that may be one of the problems?

Eon

[maineman]

Hmmm....dvd5, huh? Sorry I missed that.
Like I said, I don't burn much and I since I playback via MP, I haven't used BD to DVD much at all.

I wonder roughly, where it is that most of us hit a wall in terms of compression and decent quality video. Although there are many factors in play and wide variability user to user, hardware to hardware, users will hit a brick wall at some point.

Take the Armegeddon BD file of 30.8 GB.
When compressed by roughly 388% to a DL, it plays just fine for me.

I can give it a shot to SL media, but this means compression by about 705%.
Seems like a lot to ask.

Now a BD file size of about 18 GB to a dvd5, seems more likely to succeed.

Who knows, as I said I don't have any first-hand knowledge whatsoever.

[eon_designs]

Thanks for the reply biglarryjames

From what I am seeing - I don't think it is actually anything to do with the burning process:

As I mentioned in an earlier post I have played the files that have been generated from DVDFab straight to my TV via both a WD TV Live and a Dvico TVIX box. Both of these show the same jitters and there has been no burning done. The encoded files are just taken from one hard drive and put on another.

[Potti]

New beta

Hi All:
New build 8059beta is out. Try it please.
Good luck.

Potti

[eon_designs]

I would really love to try the latest Beta - but my trial has expired!

If it works then I will certainly be purchasing it - but not knowing if it is going to work I don't want to waste money.

Is there any way of getting the trial period extended so I can test the latest Beta? Shame they don't just have it watermarked until you purchase the module in question :-(

[fengtao]

I would really love to try the latest Beta - but my trial has expired!

If it works then I will certainly be purchasing it - but not knowing if it is going to work I don't want to waste money.

Is there any way of getting the trial period extended so I can test the latest Beta? Shame they don't just have it watermarked until you purchase the module in question :-(

Hi,

Please re-download 8059 beta to see the result, you should can try DVDFab for another 30 days.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

[eon_designs]

Downloaded and installed the latest version 8.0.5.9

Unfortunately unable to try as I get the message window popping up saying -

The "Blu-ray to DVD" option is expired
Please buy or renew it at the www.dvdfab.com

Is there something else I need to do to re-activate the trial?

[signals]

Was your download before or after Fengtao's post? He may have changed something in the installer.

[eon_designs]

re-downloaded the installer - allowed me to run the Blu-ray to DVD - Thanks for that.

However, ran it twice. Each time it gets to the end of the encoding and then crashes saying DVDFab unexpectedly quit or something to that extent.

Any suggestions? I am running in software mode only - however the new lightning option is turned on.

I will try again tomorrow with that turned off to see if that helps.

:-(

[eon_designs]

8.0.5.9.

Just ran it again with the Lightning option turned off - still crashed at the end when it reached 100% with the message:

"A Problem casued the program to stop working correclty"

Here are the internal log files - looks like it did not generate all of the logs correclty:

Shame - I was really wanting to see if this version got rid of the stutters in the playback.

Fingers crossed you can sort this out.

eon



DVDFab 8.0.5.9 (2010/12/15 18:53:30)

0m 03.77s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 30.71s: got bdmv
0m 31.10s: got extended bdinfo
0m 52.32s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 52.32s: create config(5)
0m 52.32s: convert profile(dvd.vob)
0m 52.32s: blu-ray playlist(100) angle(0) chapter(1->28)
0m 52.32s: stream(4113,AVC,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1)
0m 52.35s: processing source(00066.m2ts)
0m 52.35s: CoreAVC for video decoding enabled
75m 06.52s: terminate process


DVDFab 8.0.5.9 (2010/12/15 20:54:05)

0m 01.32s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 02.74s: detected dvd
0m 02.74s: drive D
0m 02.74s: dvd type 0
0m 02.74s: volume label
0m 26.33s: got bdmv
0m 26.67s: got extended bdinfo
0m 51.76s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 51.76s: create config(5)
0m 51.76s: convert profile(dvd.vob)
0m 51.76s: blu-ray playlist(100) angle(0) chapter(1->28)
0m 51.76s: stream(4113,AVC,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1)
0m 51.77s: processing source(00066.m2ts)
0m 51.79s: using software decoder(h264 multi-thread)
67m 24.17s: terminate process


DVDFab 8.0.5.9 (2010/12/15 22:05:53)

0m 00.67s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 01.26s: detected dvd
0m 01.26s: drive D
0m 01.26s: dvd type 0
0m 01.26s: volume label


DVDFab 8.0.5.9 (2010/12/16 07:19:21)

0m 02.46s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 03.05s: detected dvd
0m 03.05s: drive D
0m 03.05s: dvd type 0
0m 03.05s: volume label
0m 06.67s: got bdmv
0m 07.14s: got extended bdinfo
0m 28.37s:


------ begin mobile work(1/1) ------


0m 28.37s: create config(5)
0m 28.37s: convert profile(dvd.vob)
0m 28.37s: blu-ray playlist(100) angle(0) chapter(1->28)
0m 28.37s: stream(4113,AVC,1) stream(4352,DTS-HD MA,1)
0m 28.39s: processing source(00066.m2ts)
0m 28.39s: using software decoder(h264 multi-thread)
74m 28.80s: terminate process


DVDFab 8.0.5.9 (2010/12/16 08:34:37)

0m 00.90s: option dvd2dvd 1 dvd2mobile 1 bluray2bluray 1 bd2mobile 1 bd23d 1 bd2dvd 1 file2mobile 1 filemover 1
0m 01.48s: detected dvd
0m 01.48s: drive D
0m 01.48s: dvd type 0
0m 01.48s: volume label

[fengtao]

Hi eon_designs,

Please try DVDFab v8060 to see the result:

http://www.dvdfab.com/download.htm

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Fengtao

[eon_designs]

Excellent

Looks like you have got rid of the stutters :-)

Ran a test with software encoding and decoding only. Used the cheapest DVD's and burnt them at the highest speed. Worked without any stutters :-)

Going to run another test with CoreAVC and CUDA enabled to see if that makes any difference to the speed.

Also hope you can implement the 2 pass version too :-)

Thanks. eon

[eon_designs]

Just ran another test - CoreAVC and CUDA enabled - did the conversion ok - did not see any difference in the encoding time.

So far happy - will test with some subtitles and forced subtitles too.