New Profiles

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If you've made a new DVDFab profile for your latest gadget, post it here as an attachment. Put the name of the device in the title of the post to make it easy to find.

[GregiBoy]

Samsung LA52A850 Television

This television plays video files directly from USB drives and also from DNLA servers such as Twonky.

This profile gives me very good results on this device.

This should work on a 7, 8 & 9 series Samsungs. Please let me know any results and maybe we can fine tune the profile a little more.

Don't forget to rename it with an XML extension and copy it to Fab's profile directory.

Enjoy

[RobSpook]

This should work on a 7, 8 & 9 series Samsungs. Please let me know any results and maybe we can fine tune the profile a little more.

Okay, I checked this out as I use DVD to Mobile exclusively to make files for my LN46B750. I always use H264 in an AVI container and source audio also so we are very close. However, your profile doesn't allow to to change the file size. The way you wrote in the min and max bit rates in the profile I believe is almost the same as doing a single pass conversion. You need to allow the encoder to use a larger range of bit rates to make use of the second pass.

Just my $.02 and I may be wrong, but...

I usually use a 2 pass conversion, total length of movie in minutes * 15MB for the file size and use whatever Fab auto selects for the resolution. Always has excellent results, but not as good as upscaling DVD player of course.

[GregiBoy]

Okay, I checked this out as I use DVD to Mobile exclusively to make files for my LN46B750. I always use H264 in an AVI container and source audio also so we are very close. However, your profile doesn't allow to to change the file size. The way you wrote in the min and max bit rates in the profile I believe is almost the same as doing a single pass conversion. You need to allow the encoder to use a larger range of bit rates to make use of the second pass.

Just my $.02 and I may be wrong, but...

I usually use a 2 pass conversion, total length of movie in minutes * 15MB for the file size and use whatever Fab auto selects for the resolution. Always has excellent results, but not as good as upscaling DVD player of course.

I have ALWAY found that the fixed bitrate gives better playback reliability on other players, not only the Samsung. I have 4 Hard Disk media players and 2 network media players in my mix which I have been encoding for for over 6 years.

I always used the fixed resolution and no crop because some of the players (not the Sammy) sometimes have problems with the aspect ratio.

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GregiBoy and Robspook
Thanks for a great start to this thread. I hope it will fill up with profiles that users can find and use. The device name in the title will make it easy to search.

[GregiBoy]

HTC Touch Pro & HTC Touch HD

Here are the profiles that I use for these phones. The profiles should generally work on most Windows Mobile Smart Phones....

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hi,

thanks the great profiles !

for the new devices, I think if the people can provide the sample files, which can help me to create the profile more better and quickly.

I think the most device will have the sample video file in it's memory card, which is been puted by the device creator. this file is the good sample for create profile.

[djdafreund]

I can help with fine tuning a Touch Pro one. I have one and my best friend has a touch pro 2 now. And was going to make a good profile anyway so. I say this because of the experience i have with conversion and testing and such, and i PREFER to not use WMV as the chosen codec, as i find it has some artifacts in the video and yet not much difference with quality for the overall size of filesize. Versus h.264 (my #1 choice actually), or right next to it xvid, as these devices are powerfull enough to not really notice any lag or problems playing them, yet shows a nice lower size difference without noticing much visual difference while playing. I will post it here though when i'm done.
I will have a fair amount of choose from also while i am at it. I was thinking after doing this, which would more benefit adding to the feature requests more, but possible add some function that could be controlled by the user to have a basic set for a profile, but allow the user to have a few selectable presets (IE- BEST, GOOD, and Decent), where the user that made the profile can have it designed to have a few presets INSIDE the profile that will give the user options. So if they don't want to mess with all the different guts of for control of the profile, they can choose between different selectable settings (IE- Best, Good, and Decent, etc., or whatever name's are made). So i could make one for say BEST, which would be all preset settings for converting a movie in best quality over everything else, Good could be where i have all the settings to give 2nd best quality but reducing some noticible things to save better filesize, and say Decent would be preset with settings like smaller bitrate and resolution but much lower filesize.
And the selectable options would be left to the profile designer, so if the designer makes like 6 different profile preset's, then the user would have 6 to choose from (IE- HQ, HIGH, DECENT, GOOD(Filesize), Decent (Filesize), WATCHABLE) for example. If they make 3 or 4 presets to select from, the user will see 3 or 4.
The reason i say this is because, certainly we can make a profile for each one of these, but as you can imagine 2 problems, profile's would get cluttered pretty fast, and 2nd, would be more confusing to make a bunch of profile's for ONE REAL device profile and the end user might get confused where to find them. But this way, a user can go to where they are used to looking (IE- Mobile Device) and then have the option for choosing between multiple presets the profile made for them to choose from.

[GregiBoy]

I disagree with you on the WMV/MP4 encoding for Windows Mobile SmartPhones in general as I have encoded literally hundreds of movies for these devices and have had no artifact problems.

The reason I chose WMV for my profiles listed above is that I can integrate the encoded movies into the Windows Media Library on my devices with tags such as Genre, Starring, etc and also encapsulate the DVD cover with MP3Tag editor.

That being said, I understand your points on the variations on a profile and I achieve this by setting the parameters in the profile.

eg:

Modify the resolutions available to give a Hi, Medium & Low size
Modify the framerate to give Hi, Medium & Low
Modify the video bitrate to default to medium with the max at good an the min at low
Modify the audio bitrate to do the same

This way, the user has control of where they wish to change the quality.

I know it is not ideal nor idiotproof but it works for me.

[djdafreund]

Well, i didn't mean to sound like a debate about WMV for choice, but i've done over 300 just in the past 2 months alone in the 10 years i've been encoding/editing/etc. I probably didn't choose the best word (Artifact), but just overall i personally hate WMV as a format of choice (personal choice.) As to keeping my Anonymity, i sometime's am known for re-releasing certain movies for optimizing the video quality, as well as fixing sync issues, and such. It's totally cool to disagree though, every one has there own points of view, that's the beauty of human choice. If using the right settings, i can show a major difference between using WMV and h.264, and you won't ever find WMV (still to date) as an leading codec used in mobile device's, including WM devices themselves. But it's been some years since using it last after my personal finding's of doing extensive testings on divx, xvid, wmv, h.263, h.264, & VC1.
And of course i would agree about the reason's for choosing it for WMP, but again i haven't used WMP in more then at least 7 years as i've been using XBMC which blows WMP out of the park. But keep in mind xvid's and h.264's can be easily tagged just as well as WMV files. That's just my personal opinion of not using WMV though mostly, i just don't like the differences of quality in comparison.

The profile, to go further though, i know you can do it the way you mentioned, but there's quite a lot of users that aren't too savvy with this kind of stuff, and to properly make quality profile's, since it requires a bit of everything on both audio side's and video sides, that most of the settings i would prefer to take most of the confusion away for the user that might prefer more ease of selection's. Currently using a default video profile, sure, we could have PLENTY of the controls your talking about, but it also add's a certain % of user forum posts with questions like "What is this?...", "What does this do?.." "What's the best settings (doesn't exist really, as no right answer)", but it WOULD allow the people like me (I originally created the Samsung A920 profile included for a while now.) that don't mind making more/newer ones, to be able to have a few preset's within a profile a user can choose without having to know much about all the settings there. I didn't mean to be literal about "Low,Medium,High" settings, but rather just being able to make multiple preset's within a profile, many if we want to. It's just a suggestion. I just want, as the author's have always been since the beginning, to listen with reason with a suggestion before just saying "Naaa" and consider the pluses the user's benefit from that idea, as it's THOSE users that pay for the product, making the author's more rich from it.

[GregiBoy]

I TOTALLY agree with you on the use of H263 & H264 on all of the streaming media devices that I have helped develop, alpha & beta tested (Have 7 different devices in the house at the moment) and also now import with the exception of Windoze Mobile Smartphones (I am no lover of Micro$oft). I find that the Windows Media Library on these devices is usually streets ahead of alternate software that the manufacturers stick on them also.

I do get what you would like to achieve with the profile and was pointing out how I get around it currently. Really they can only change Video Bitrate, Audio Bitrate, Framerate & Resoloution and if you restrict those choices by providing a list that has not to many choices, it does become fairly simple but as I said, not idiotproof.

[djdafreund]

Haha, that's cool. We're actually on the same page after all. That's what i love about discussion. I totally agree with 'Not being a love of M$', me neither. I did find, and even offered further help to develop a SOMEWHAT recent program that came out that's honestly the 1st mediacenter program ever for WM. It currently resemble's Mediacenter (to SOME extent), and is ALL GUI driven, but supports image's for movie's and file's, well, anyway i am getting off track here. Haha. Anyway, nice hear some views, and 'Welcome' with your new position!!

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Generic 3gp profile

This profile makes mpeg4+aac and should present you with 3 screen size choices for each of the common aspect ratios. It will be the first choice in the profile choice dropdown for Generic. Please post the results, good or bad. Plays fine on my PC with VLC, no way to test every phone. This profile will not be officially supported unless/until it is included with the DVDFab installer.

[djdafreund]

Post moved

The YouTube HD support is a good idea. I have moved it to the Feature Request forum.

[Chuck]

Samsung YP-T10 Profile

I use this on my Samsung YP-T10 MP3/Video player.